Dick Allen

There was one out, Perez had to make sure that ball got through. He failed

He actually played 3B for the Sox a few years ago for a few games. There's a reason he doesn't anymore.

Why didn't someone from the White Sox organization fix his glove after it happened the first time? Then why not after the second time? If someone is assigned this duty, they should be fired.

Crede not getting his glove fixed has so far cost the Sox 2 runs. There is no excuse.

For the love of God, Crede has to get a new glove.

If it was Ozzie, you wouldn't have been able to understand it.

Its groundhog day watching the White Sox run the bases the past few years.

Pitchers routinely comeback from elbow surgery. Kerry Wood a fine example. Its the shoulder that is even more of a concern. Danny probably blew out his elbow in the Spring of 2003, when team doctors found nothing wrong with his elbow even though he had major discomfort. This probably led to mechanical adjustments to bear the pain, which probably led to shoulder problems. These are the same doctors who found nothing wrong with Barcelo, and KW was bad mouthing him, only to lead to Barcelo having surgery himself. I believe the White Sox named new team doctors this season. Hopefully they can detect these injuries sooner, before the players cause more damage trying to play through the pain.

According to AM1000, neither is in the line-up tonight, but will be in uniform.

JR was on the Score a couple weeks ago and mentioned that Griffey would never play for the White Sox. Thank God.

My point was when Schueler was here and the farm system was ranked #1 by BA, we kept on being told about all the pitching in the minors. Everyone threw 95 mph. Barcelo, injury plagued, Rauch, hyped as the next Randy Johnson, hurt, and now the organization won't give him a chance, even if he performs well. Garland was supposedly the next Kevin Brown. He is only 24, but his development has been painfully slow. Kip Wells was supposedly a David Cone clone. He may be, but KW had to unload him for a Jaime Navarro clone. Wright, West, Stumm, Ginter, the list goes on and on. Schueler never mentioned Buerhle, and he has had the most success by far. They tried their best to lose Magglio, exposing him in the rule 5 draft, so obviously they didn't consider him much of a prospect. They liked Jeff Abbott a lot more, the same Jeff Abbott who may be asking you if you'd like fries with that at McDonald's. The Baseball America ranking a few years ago was way off. Schueler really didn't have much before the group you mentioned. Wells-gone, Fogg-gone, Maggs-they lucked into his success, Crede-inconsistent, Lee-inconsistent, Baldwin-the highest career ERA for a pitcher who has pitched as many innings as he has in the history of MLB. For a guy who was supposedly a scouting genius, it doesn't say much about Schueler's 10 years at the helm.

Maybe he'll let you present him in Cooperstown.

You are absolutely right. Ron Schueler brainwashed everyone , including Baseball America, into believing the farm system was full of future stars. The only place most of these will ever star in in softball beer leagues.

I like Hawk and DJ, but it sickens me when they basically blame JM for the way the team performed the last couple of years, but now say when its happening again that no coach or manager could really do anything about the funk.

But his errors never cost the Sox anything and his range factor is over the roof

I think its a little too early to write this guy off, but he obviously is going to have to go back to Charlotte for a while.

With the way this team is constructed, there would be 1 guy for 11or 12 players, and 1 for 1or 2. Who would coach the "in between" guys?

Uribe has 3 errors this season. 2 as a secondbaseman in a win against KC, and 1, the only 1 he has made as a shortstop in the debacle against the Yankees where the Yankees did not score 1 unearned run all night. Check the facts. He also saved a game when Koch was walking the world, on a tough hop last out against Baltimore.

So you're saying Valentin's errors haven't cost any runs? I was sitting in Yankee Stadium when he threw 2 into the stands. Runs scored then.

The guy missed what, 15- 17 games, and only has 1 less error than the other 1b,2b,ss, and 3rd basemen combined. If he continues his current pace and plays the remainder of the season, he will set a record for errors. Uribe is a stud defensively, and thus far has been stellar at the plate. If the are going to continue with Harris in CF, SS is the more important defensive position, so Uribe should be at short, and let Valentin play 2b.

I don't agree with the theory that Valentin's errors don't hurt the team. Even if it doesn't appear to initially, his miscues put stress on the pitchers, and force them to face extra hitters, and make more pitches. This comes back to haunt the Sox more often than not later in the game. Last year he did have a pretty good year defensively, but this year he has been horrible.

I believe he is a career .246 hitter, and a butcher in the field. He's only hit .260 once in his career. He's NOT the $5 million a year player KW thinks he is, especially for a team with big time budget concerns.

KW mentioned grinders at the end of last season, and sat on his hands except for Uribe, who is far superior to Valentin, offensively and defensively, at least so far this season. Its the same crap that has been going on for the past 3+ seasons now. If its not a pitcher the team has faced several times, they seem unprepared. This guy tonight had an ERA almost 7.00 coming in, and pop out after pop out is what we get. Its time Ozzie starts managing like he claimed he would, and start playing his best players. Uribe sitting 2 games in a row, with no hit , no field Valentin in there? Ridiculous. This team cannot manufacture runs. If the ball isn't going over the fence, they really have a tough time scoring. Ozzie has no choice but be patient. Who else is he going to insert in the line-up? JM was not the greatest manager, and deserved to be fired long before he did, but "Ozzieball" is a farce. Ozzieball=Corpseball. You really can't change it unless you change the roster more than a little bit.

I think they said there are 24,000 tickets sold for tonight's game. I live downtown and its very pretty outside right now, but it is cold. 9000 walk ups is probably a little too optimistic. Fireworks might be good for 4000-5000, hopefully.

The Bucket Boys were there. They all had their Bulls shirts on. How about giving them some White Sox clothing? I just go to watch the game, I don't care about the other stuff, but the Bucket Boys were alright. They didn't bother me like that Steffen character, with his dugout dancers a few years back.