Dick Allen

The dome in Minneapolis, if you want to call it a dome, is spectacular.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 06:29 PM) Makes sense, should have realized there was an explanation. That probably is the reason, but Ted Phillips was pretty busy listing all the things Ryan Pace has accomplished since joining the Bears. I listen to Hampton, OB and Koz after each game, and the Bears could win 50-0 over New Ngland, those guys would make it seem like they got killed. This was the exact opposite. When Phillips was speaking, you would have thought Pace had this team in the Super Bowl every year. I just don't see how Fox can get fired for going 14-34, and Pace gets extended when even he himself said that a lot of that was on him. I guess it's so someone won't freak out and not come on board because they think a new GM is one 7-9 season away. And I suppose even if they had to eat a couple or three years of money and dump him, it probably isn't anywhere near as much money as they blew on Glennon. But if the Bears are 7-9 or 6-10 next year, why would they continue with this guy? His job should depend on winning some games at some point. I hope we are at that point now.

Ryan Pace extended through the 2021 season. You have got to be bleepin me. I want a job with the Bears.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 02:02 PM) While I usually agree with that, it seems like the tide has changed a little recently. Did Jared Goff become a franchise QB overnight or is he getting coached up so well? The Vikings have had Sam Bradford and Case Keenum all year and are the 2 seed. None of the 4 AFC quarterbacks playing this weekend are franchise QBs by any means. As I stated, there are exceptions here and there but not over a decent period of time. A couple of these coaches in the playoffs this year with an average at best QB will probably be looking for a job a year or two from now. The teams with sustained success all have one thing in common besides someone thought of as an elite coach.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 02:55 PM) Of course you do. We all want to believe that we remember things exactly the way they actually happened. But that's just not how our brains work. They are fallible and prone to suggestions. There have been studies done where people are shown doctored or fake pictures of historical events and these people will "remember" facts that simply aren't true. I know this probably won't do much good because of the backfire effect (the finding that people don't like to change their mind on things even when shown facts that prove they are wrong) but I'll post it anyway. https://www.snopes.com/2017/12/27/trump-oba...r-on-christmas/ You go into a department store....when was the last time Trump went into a department store?

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 01:21 PM) Sounds good but Arians got to 8 wins with Blaine Gabbert and without his franchise RB. The Vikings are 2 seeds with Case Keenum. Bills in playoffs with Tyrod Taylor. Like I said, Fox isn’t first coach to deal with poor talent. Once in a while it works, but to be consistently good, you need a Big time QB. 8-8 isn't a playoff team. At this point, it's better the Bears are 5-11 and not 8-8. If they were 8-8, Fox would still be fired and they would have the same holes in the roster. Why are you basically giving Pace a pass? You are saying a coach should win even with a s***ty roster, but what about the guy responsible for the roster?Considering how high his draft position has been, isn't it a problem the only guys you can definitely say we're hits at this point are Howard 5th round, Cohen 4th round, Jackson 3rd round? Sure Trubisky could be a bit hit, Floyd may become one, but not if he has probable s staying on the field. Everyone else, meh. Hicks was a great signing, but look at all the horrible signings. And I still don't understand the low bid for Jeffery. I don't think making as big of an investment in Trubisky should buy this guy a couple of years. Results better come in 2018. If it is more of the same, he has to go. If the Bears suck because White, Floyd, Long and a few other chronically injured players get hurt, that is no excuse.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 01:09 PM) John fox may very well have been fired regardless because priority #1 is developing Trubisky which he cannot do, but John Fox made that very easy because he was so bad. Funny thing about good nfl coaches, they tend to make the talent on their teams look a lot better. The funniest thing about good NFL coaches is they all have franchise QBs. Fox was pretty good when he had one.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 12:53 PM) Had they beaten winnable games against weaker talent in GB at home or SF, they’d be 7-9. See how easy it is to show how a mediocre/bad team can get there? Over a 3 year period, yes, a coach should hit it once. Fox was just bad. He avsolutely has a chance, but his badness ruined it. They would have had to win 10 to make the playoffs. No chance any coach in the NFL could have got the Bears to 10 wins in 2017. Lovie got fired for going 10-6. 27-53 since.

As a GarPax basher, You can't bash them both ways. You can't complain they are now too good. If Dunn,a dn Laurie, and Levine are great, that should be a feather in their caps. If they get something for Niko, that should be a feather in their caps. I am sure no one would have been upset had Niko signed somewhere else. People are still b****ing about Bell but wouldn't he make them better? So even us bashers have to pick a lane.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 12:23 PM) They should have just fired fox last year, it was clear he wasn’t what was need d. I don’t buy he didn’t have a chance, he was just bad. Doesn’t mean he could have won a super bowl, but in 3 years pretty much any coach should be able to cobble an 8 win season, unless they are bad or a browns coach. No receivers and had to start Glennon. Loggans calling plays was a huge error, but it is hard to score withwhat the Bears had to work with personnel wise, Fox had no control of the roster. I was watching a discussion saying the Bears candidate pool will be limited due to Pace having total control of the roster, big names are longshots at best. but that might be better for the Bears.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 12:12 PM) They had to cut ties with Cutler and find a replacement QB much sooner if they were going to save the job of any HC. This year was set up to fail. NFL MO is no HC coaches a lame duck season, so it was playoffs or bust for a 3-13 team whose biggest offseason asset to improve the FO didn't want on the field. I don't think Fox showed all that much, and probably shouldn't be coaching the Bears, but the crap he gets for their record is ridiculous. He had no chance. Ryan Pace has to be on the clock, and it would also be nice if the Bears made him available more often, he should have to answer for a lot of this crap.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 1, 2018 -> 12:09 PM) Why is giants such a good job again? You get to draft your QB, but other than that, I agree. Wanny had his choice of the 2 and he chose the beloved. I guess it all depends on what they think of Trubisky.

As much as Fox sucked, I think whoever the Bears hired 3 years ago would have been fired today, especially if their OC was a weak as the one Fox had. It's a catch 22, if your OC is awesome, he gets a HC job. If there is stability, it's better than 50/50 he isn't all that great It would be interesting to see where the Bears would be if Gase was still calling the plays.

Pretty shocked Davis signed with Colorado. He had Cubs culture for a year. Funny how offering the most money works.

Sano is denying it

He's like really smart. He went to Wharton.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 28, 2017 -> 01:19 PM) I found out this past weekend that my aunt (who is now 60ish) was sexually assaulted when she was about 15/16 years old or so. She's kept it bottled up almost the entire time, her sisters and her brother (my dad) knew a little bit, but essentially my grandmother and the police told her to not speak of it again as it would make it worse for her. So this new wave of #metoo has given her some courage to speak up about it and she is still emotionally scarred from it (very noticeable with some of her actions and the way she spoke about it). Some of the twitter comments in the Passan tweet thread just piss me off so much, seeing how much this has haunted my aunt and how she was told to handle it and how that affected her and then seeing some of that s***? Glad those guys are on the internet because I'd probably be in jail if I encountered one of them in real life. It definitely is one of those things that if it hasn't happened to you or someone you are close with where you can see what it does, you probably have no idea how much damage it causes. Hopefully, getting it out does help them, and your aunt moving forward.

2006 the Sox started out really hot, but the pitching fell apart. I want to say when it all went real bad was a game I happend to attend at Wrigley, Buerhle got destroyed. It was so bad, when Ozzie came out to get him he was laughing. And it went downhill from there.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 28, 2017 -> 11:24 AM) Never mind that I actually noticed more people saying merry Christmas this year. I'm uneducated and ignorant though. Oh well another issue I lose on the board It's in your mind. People never stopped saying Merry Christmas. They brought it to your attention, so now you think when people say Merry Christmas, they didn't say it before. It is made up. Trump has a 35 percent approval rating. Do you really think people would start doing something because he said so? Greg, start using some logic. All the guys you are getting this information from are proven liars. Rush said the hurricanes were a hoax. Trump gets called for his lies on a daily basis and Hannity just licks Trumps balls.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 28, 2017 -> 11:01 AM) Thome put up wRC+ of 153, 150, 122, and 123 during his time with the White Sox. Aaron Rowand had one good season after the White Sox traded him. If you want to blame defense, you can blame Ozzie for continually putting Mackowiak in CF, but the root cause of that team falling off was the complete implosion by the pitching staff. Their ERA rose a full run from 2005 to 2006. That trade had nothing to do with it, and in fact, I would say was the biggest reason they won 90 games that season. If you go by WAR in 2006 Thome 4.8 Brian Anderson 0.0 Mackowiak 0.4 Rowand 1.2 Big Hurt 2.4 seems a net plus to me as well.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 28, 2017 -> 10:45 AM) He was past his prime when the White Sox got him, and sending Rowand to get him was an overpay and IMO part of the reason the 2006 team didn't make the playoffs (CF was brutally bad for that team). The Sox were very fortunate that Thome's age 35-37 seasons were as productive as they were. The past his prime Thome put up a 1.014 OPS for the 2006 White Sox, and a .933 OPS during his White Sox career. Rowand wasn't all that good in 2006. It didn't cost them the playoffs.

Rex Tillerson says Russia meddled in the US election and others. How long until security removes him from the premises?

Happy Holidays is a phrase people use to be polite and inclusive. Something this administration has shown they want no part of.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 27, 2017 -> 06:12 PM) Through personal observation. Year after year I never heard "Merry Christmas" uttered anywhere except on Xmas Day at church. Or I never heard in weeks/days leading up to Christmas, the words "Have a merry christmas." There was literally no mention of Christmas. None. Now this is personal observation. Contrary to what is stated on here, when I heard "Happy Holidays" or "Have a happy holiday" I never got mad or thought, "Dammit, say merry christmas!" I did however make a mental note of this and went on my merry way, no pun intended. Suddenly this year, I happened to catch some of the controversy about Trump going nuts ,even saw the clip of him saying "Merry Christmas" is back. I may have read a thread on here ripping Trump for it or something as well. I didn't think much about it, then I start hearing "Merry CHristmas" or "Have a merry christmas" at some restaurants, coffee shops, SW Airlines on a few different flights. I can guarantee you I never heard it on SWA before. I thought to myself, "Damn, Trump must have had an effect on this." I actually in my mind credited Trump for something. I didn't go run around screaming, "Glory be! Christmas is back!" It wasn't that big a deal as some on here make it out to be for me. It was something I did notice and approve of. It did not affect me saying "Merry CHristmas" to anybody as I've been trained in PC well enough to not go there. I finally returned the Merry CHristmas the other day and it felt very very weird coming out of my mouth. To me, these all were holiday observations, not a huge deal. I didn't scream to the heavens, CHRISTMAS IS BACK, THANK U MR TRUMP" I just noticed it which has really really bothered some on here. To me it was a sequitir not a non sequitir in that because I NOTICED A CHANGE and Trump had spoken out, I deduced perhaps Trump had something to do with it. IT has been pointed out to me Obama also said it. That is good. I like that. But I do not recall Obama going on a tirade saying we all should say Merry Christmas, hence I have not credited Obama enuf for some people on here. In conclusion ... thank you for your question. I want to know what about my response(s) make me the scumbag I'm being portrayed to be. I think it stems from nobody believes me and also because i listen to Rush and Hannity on occasion in the car for brief periods of time I am considered to be their disciples/clones. Continue to flame me, I'm used to it. up Thank God for Teump. It is nice this country finally has a President that allows us to say Merry Christmas again. Greg, do you even realize how stupid the whole argument is? It was a Faux News Bill O'Reilly made up production to rile up Faux News viewers against their non Christian non Faux News viewer fellow citizens. Trump latched on, and you fell for it hook, line and sinker. Good thing you weren't born a fish. You would have been a shore lunch long ago.

Trumps golfing, which he would have no time to do if elected, too busy making deals, has cost taxpayers over $100k in golf cart rental alone for the secret service. Since he golfs at his own properties, guess who benefits? You would thin a guy who wants to make America great again (insinuating it is not, how dare he) and want to cut spending, would either golf where it is cheaper, or cut the taxpayers a break on the carts, and the lodging, and the food.