Dick Allen

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 09:18 AM) FanGraphs article yesterday included a chart showing a constant increase in velocity from his first MLB appearance in 2014 up to now. Because he had to take some off to get it over the plate. He's always thrown extreme gas.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 09:14 AM) Did Kahnle increase his FB velocity? I thought he always threw hard, i thought it was just swarzak with the increased velocity. No, he's always flirted with 100. He started throwing strikes.

QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 09:03 AM) I guess. I'm not sure what a team on pace to win like 60 games has to benefit from having the next Andrew Miller. The theory being, like many here who think a Kahnle implosion is inevitable, if you held him and he continued to perform, he would be like a cheaper Andrew Miller, and he would eventually net you a prospect even greater than Blake Rutherford. Why did the team need Q the first half of the season? The fact is, if you are going to trade them you want the best deal, and patience can work for you or against you. Maybe ultimately this was the best deal. But none of us know right now.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 08:38 AM) Trading players that wouldnt have been part of the rebuilt White sox means is 100% isnt going to "blow up in their faces." Its amazing we fixed a reliever and used him partly to bring back young talent. Thats how you rebuild. If Kahnle becomes elite and Rutherford busts, the trade blew up in their faces. 60 strike outs in 36 innings. I saw something that if he has you 0-2, you are screwed. MLB hitters are 2-39 with 32 strikeouts if they fall behind him 0-2.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 08:12 AM) You are overvaluing what we just traded. 1) Frazier is a pure rental and not worth much in a deal on his own 2) Robertson is a fairly high priced closer on a team with no use for him. Nice to get that salary off of our books. 3) Kahnle has had 3 months of good production, but the track record does not back it up. Could it be a full breakout? Sure, but given what happened to Jones I'm not sure we want to try and get greedy. "Hogs get fat, pigs get slaughtered" I keep reading anyone who isn't in love with this deal is overvaluing the White Sox players. I know Blake Rutherford has been highly regarded here and a lot of places, but his stock has slipped a bit this year. Sure, maybe he becomes a monster, but right now if he were a White Sox draft pick there would be a ton of moaning about his performance thus far this season which isn't terrible, but not exactly great. I personally neither love or hate the trade. It's one that can easily blow up in each team's face, also can be even overall (If these guys help the Yankees make the playoffs, I don't think they worry about Rutherford, especially considering their OF prospects). IMO, it's one of the rare trades that years from now can look ridiculously stupid or smart for either team. So I would guess that's a fair trade. Frankly, I would have preferred they held on to Kahnle for a while, made him a closer, and rolled the dice this isn't a fluke. In the winter or next summer, if he is still cruising along, he would be worth his weight in gold. I could understand the chance to get Frazier/DRob off the books, and acquire a guy they have really liked could trump that. Using Nate Jones being injured as reason to dump Kahnle doesn't make sense. It would be like hey Profar was a top prospect and he got hurt, so top prospects should be avoided.

QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 08:05 AM) It seems that Trump's only business skill is not paying things he's supposed to pay for. The Art of the Deal.

Now the pressure is on the decelopmental staff.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 10:31 PM) Melky could possibly get a halfway interesting lotto ticket No one to get excited about. It will be a boring trade.

After the trade Swarzak, that will just about do it for potentially interesting trades for a while. Next up, 2018 draft.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 10:18 PM) Sounds like Sox wanted Groome https://mobile.twitter.com/BostonStrong_34/...511315572547588 Looking at all of his tweets, he seems more like a wannabe insider than areal one.

QUOTE (ChrisLikesBaseball @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 10:18 PM) The Torii Hunter speculation was top notch too. The best was the yearly pick up of the Alomar boys.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 10:11 PM) Tito Polo, OF: The Pirates signed Polo out of Colombia in the spring of 2012. He emerged as an interesting talent by hitting .291/.374/.475 in the Gulf Coast Rookie League in 2014, but slumped to just .236/.313/.328 in the Low-A South Atlantic League in 2015, though he did steal 46 bases. He returned to West Virginia to open 2016 and hit a strong .302/.368/.551 in 225 at-bats, leading to his promotion to the High-A Florida State League, where he slashed .276/.351/.346 in 214 at-bats for Bradenton. Polo is 5-9, 185, a right-handed hitter and thrower born August 23rd, 1994. His best physical tool is speed and he's aggressive about using it on the bases, but unfortunately his weak arm and mediocre defensive instincts will likely limit him to left field at the highest levels. He's well-built physically and has some pop in his bat, but his strike zone judgment is erratic and his power evaporates every time he's promoted. He then makes adjustments and gets the pop back, but whether that will remain true when he reaches Double-A and Triple-A (let alone the majors) remains to be seen. He's an interesting speculative investment and would be a Grade C+ prospect at this point. So your 2020 Charlotte Knights LF. Fast guys are nice but the name of the game is power. Hopefully Hahn acquires enough guys who hit a lot of homers.

Robertson and Frazier still in the dugout

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 08:24 PM) Max Wildstein‏Verified account @MaxWildstein 4m4 minutes ago Prospects Jorge Mateo & Miguel Andujar are both still playing in their respective minor league games at AA/AAA. #Yankees When you are trading for minor leaguers, it isn't as necessary to hold them out. A major injury could change things, but other than that, it isn't like a mkajor leaguer you will be counting on right away. So I don't think if they are playing it rules them out.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 07:54 PM) I can't imagine DD letting the Yankees get all 3 of those guys, can you? He might not have the prospects available, and he wants to stay under the luxury tax so money could be an issue.

If it happens, Bruce deserves an apology. Looks like th y were talking to Boston and maybe RH went to Cashman and told him it was time to s*** or get off the pot.

All the White Sox go through a goofy handshake/hug ritual before every game.

They just showed him sitting on the bench. Next to Robertson

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 06:57 PM) Rosenthal says Devers is part of package! Fake account

Bruce said the money is right and Boston close to getting Frazier and DRob

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 06:36 PM) The tank is on. At least they could put some effort into it and move some guys around. I get losing is supposedly good, and that they are most likely going to lose this game no matter what, but c'mon.

And Yolmer Sanchez is DHing and batting clean up vs. Clayton Kershaw.

Comp picks are 3rd rounders now.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 05:52 PM) Insane to me that the Tigers couldn't do better than that even with Martinez just being a rental. Lugo is a pretty good prospect

One thing that won't be the downfall with Kahnle is stuff. He figured out how to throw strikes. I have mentioned this before, but I really don't know of guys who all of a sudden found the strike zone for more than a couple of outings, and then just lost it again, but I am sure there are examples. To me he is like Matt Thornton who Copp changed in one side session and he was fixed forever. If Kahnle's control is fixed permanently, he is going to be really good as long as he is healthy.