Dick Allen

Time to fire Robin.

Impressive glove work.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 08:20 PM) Pelfrey out for the 6th. What could possi-bly go wrong? We will probably get to find out.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 08:18 PM) If the sox for whatever reason believe they need to get a Spanish speaking manager for this team in the future with all the young latin talent coming up (and a couple currently here), fine... but unless he changes his philosophy and principles of statics, Renteria can not be managing this team when they're ready to compete. I don't know what the motivation was but up2 with 2 on for Moncada, and bunting is ridiculously sad.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 08:15 PM) You don't like trying to give up an out for the red hot Yolmer? Ricky speaks Spanish.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 08:13 PM) Ricky sets Moncada up to fail and he still comes through moving the runners. Atta boy. Yesterday he had the greatest dribbler to first in White Sox history, today the greatest swinging bunt in team history.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 06:28 PM) They might be showcasing Saladino With his performance thus far and back issues, Saladino, unless the Sox see absolutely no hope his status should be hold.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 05:42 PM) Nah Trayce just can't hit Probably not, and it would obviously be dependent on what Sox doctors thought of his back, but to me a fascinating buy low guy.There were a lot of people upset he was traded away and the Sox top OF prospects are still a way away. Throw him out there this year and next and see if he can create some value. I would think if Dodger scouts like how Swarzak is throwing, giving him up.wouldnt be painful.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 05:43 PM) And since all home runs travel 50 or more feet beyond the wall, there's clearly no tradeoff here. I see guys who do choke up all the time like Rizzo, and Votto and Bonds. They seem to do fine. There are very few that barely clear the wall. How much farther will a ball travel from the same guy hit identically,if he is swing a 35 inch 35 ounce bat on the end , vs a 36 inch 36 ounce bat where he chokes up an inch or two? The guy who hit the most home runs choked up. The guy that got the most hits, choked up. Yeah, stupid idea. I guess the big question is what percentage of ABs not choking up result in home runs that wouldn't be home runs if choking up? I am guessing no more tha 1 percent if that. I think improving the odds the other 99 percent more than makes up for it.

Looks like the Dodgers could use so,e relief help.Would anyone trad Swarzak straight up for Trayce Thompson?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 05:22 PM) Delmonico played 1b yesterday...has he done that a lot? I have no idea, and doubt it is related. Abreu has taken infield at 3B every year he has been here. It really is a non story. http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-white-so...some-third-base http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/white-s...-at-third-base/

What's the over under on whenTrump take full credit for the USS Gerald Ford?

I think he is taking grounders at third just in case. Playing the Cubs, you never know at their park.Jermaine Dye once played SS for the Sox.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 04:49 PM) Basic physics requires that the farther away the hitting surface is from your body the faster it will be going. I believe that's why people feel comfortable choking up with 2 strikes - it slows the bat head down and trades speed/power for control/contact. Yes but this isn't the NBA. Clearing the wall by 1 foot counts as much as by 50. I'd rather have the more control and contact and take my chances.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 02:59 PM) If you're doing that to add in more weight then I think it would actually slow your bat down because you've added unproducive mass that you still need to move during each swing. Grab a wooden bat. Sing it from the end. Choke up an inch getting rid of non hitting area. Notice the difference. Most grew up with aluminum where you can get a huge bat head and keep it light. If it were cool to choke up everyone would do it. A ride up Barry Bonds did it and no one can match him.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 22, 2017 -> 11:39 AM) The $12/year thing is from that insane NYT interview he did, and it's not the first time he's made comments like that. Never mind policy intricacies, he really has no idea what health insurance even is. He doesn't know the difference between health and life insurance. Just like he didn't and probably still doesn't know what Obamacare is. During the campaign he said his employees didn't like it. They were covered under his company's plans.

I don't know why everyone doesn't choke up anyway. At the very least it allows you to use a bigger bat. More wood in the hitting area. You could get closer to aluminum bat dimensions.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 01:14 PM) Trump wanted to give this guy a job because he liked the way he looks on TV. https://twitter.com/KateNocera/status/88843...src=twsrc%5Etfw He once referred to Trump as a political hack. Now he will just look the other way.

Buy American, hire American, just not what Trump is selling and at Mar a lago.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 11:05 AM) Spicey quits. Gonna miss that guy. Melissa McCarthy just lost a gig.

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jul 21, 2017 -> 08:47 AM) This is everything right here! This needs to be printed out on paper.... no, chiseled into rock... and put in every office, dugout, scoreboard and locker room at the stadium. I do agree bunting is bad in many situations, but the free out stuff, fine, but.....Bunting shouldn't be that hard. Most ABs end with outs anyway. A bunt done properly is a productive out. The don't bunt ever even with pitchers argument is IMO misguided. Terrible hitters, bunting should be fine. But the guy has to be able to lay one down, and when they get to 2 strikes and look terrible the first 2 bunt attempts, the manager should be able to take something away from that. Many guys sacrifice without sacrificing with a guy on first and no one our anyway trying to hit to the right side and advancing the runner. No one ever slams that practice.

The White Sox will most likely have 2 top 5 picks in the draft the next couple of years.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 04:59 PM) He finished last three years in a row 84-86, don't think that is a record. Torborg was the right man for the right team at the right time in my opinion and it showed on the field. The Sox had the talent but it always takes a steady hand to move it in the right direction. Torborg took a team that was garbage in the first half of 89 and "suddenly" they had a winning record in the second half of that year. I guess that was all the players doing. (LOL) LaRussa was another guy who got it what with the team road parties where guys would talk baseball. I think you are absolutely devaluing the impact a manager can have on a team both on the field and off it...but you are entitled to your opinion. Baseball is not as "self-regulating" as you think especially with the amount of money some of these guys are making. Gene Lamont came in for the 1992 season, and lost 1 more game than Torborg did in 1991 despite losing his starting SS for the season to injury, and then won the division the next 2 seasons. Torborg went to NY lost 90 games buyimg beer and pizza in 1992 and was canned with a 13-25 record in 1993.

Who knows with the prospects? The Sox traded what some thought were their besr 3 prospects, or at least 3 of their best for Frazier. Now Montas is getting lit up in Oakland, Trayce makes Frazier"s average seem league leading, and Micah is patrolling CF somewhere in the minors. It seems the few times teams have been burned giving up their top prospects for rentals has ruined it for a lot of guys. Theo and DD are still 2 guys who aren't scared of being burned.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jul 20, 2017 -> 02:51 PM) That is a terrific point. The best managers are really amateur psychiatrists. They have an ability to figure out what drives guys, what gets on their minds...things like that. Chuck Tanner was very good at this aspect and so was Jeff Torborg. In fact Jeff called me this morning and as we talked he told me a story about Lance Johnson. The Sox sent Lance back down in the spring of 1989 and Jeff said he was so upset he started crying. Jeff said he told him, 'let's go into my office...' Jeff said he knew immediately what was really bothering Johnson so he gave him his phone number and told him to call anytime something was bothering him or if he just wanted to talk. Jeff told me he knew that Johnson was worried that if he was sent back down to the minors nobody would care anymore and the organization would just forget about him. History shows the type of player Lance was and you never know how this small gesture by Torborg played a part in that as it helped him mentally. Another story Jeff told me a few years ago was right before the All Star Break in 89. Sox were in K.C. had a day off before opening up a series with the Royals. Jeff asked the team to have a short workout on the off day just to go over fundamentals and that if they did it he wouldn't ask for a workout the day before the season resumed so they could be with their families a little longer. So he gets to his office at Kauffman Stadium and sees a bunch of guys on the field working out, he went to his office to start working on lineup's for the series and after about an hour he went back out to the field expecting to see the guys all gone. Instead he found them actually playing a game like we used to do when we were kids (just lobbing pitches in to hitters). He was amazed but thought, 'OK let's see what we can do with this.' So he told me he called and ordered pizza's and some beer and had them in the clubhouse when the team got back inside. They ate and talked. When they came back after the break they won 11 of 12, had a winning record in the second half and had a fantastic 1990 season. Little things sometimes add up to really big things. You just wonder what could have been had Ron Schueler not insisted that he had to hire his own manager and forced Jeff out. What the good managers have is good players. Torborg was canned from the Marlins mid season, and then they won the WS. Of course they added Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis to their roster. His career winning pct. as a manager is .006 higher than Robin Ventura's, a guy who was blamed for a lot of things you still see with the same players this year. Bad baserunning, bad defense, stupid throws....Lefty Tanner set the record for consecutive last place finishes by a manager. All these guys did pretty well when they had good players. Ozzie Guillen was a genius when the Sox won and he wanted all the attention. When he did the exact same thing when they were not so good, he was an ego maniac. No one wins with bad players, some lose with some good ones, but the locker room stuff, IMO, is now self regulated. Players make much more money than the manager for the most part. If you have talent and the right players leading your clubhouse you're fine. If you are looking for your manager to be that guy, IMO, it will be brief and there are 2 or 3 guys tops that could get it done.