Harry Chappas

I think that Buerhle is going to ink a long term deal. If he craps out there are better options for cheaper long-term which could cover a bad contract, make some sense? I also think Haegar is the number 5 and the organization felt this all along and this was the reason for moving McCarthy. If there is a thought that we needed more "stuff" pitchers, the Sox got rid of two guys that were feel pitchers last year. Jose and Vazquez are stuff guys and Garland (and buerhle to an extent) are still growing and have better stuff than McCarthy. If McCullough and the leftie we got in the Cotts trade pan out this offseason can be nothing short of spectacular. It also could suck badly. I think there is a major move coming though for a solid to great number 5.

I believe the organization likes Haegar more than McCarthy. Think about facing Haegar and then any of six guys that throw 95+ out of the pen. At the start of the winter OG stated that he wanted 6 guys that could close. Well he has them. I also believe there is a major deal coming up for a couple of young pithcers (ie Danks and Broadway for Crawford).

How come Wainwright could have success out of the pen and McCarthy could not? Lance Broadway is now easy to get rid of as well as MCullough. Two guys that were really high on the prospect list. Weaver is an option as well.

Offer Clemens the moon to quite the critics they like theses moves. He is a stop gap until either Floyd, Gonzalez or Danks are ready to take a place a top of the rotation. I actually think that the Sox should tell Clemens he will pitch every Sunday and go with a six man rotation based around this. I like the move FWIW.

This is a great trade. As stated about 15 times Glaod wasn't going to get playing time. Sisco has a great arm. The pen now has 5 guys that throw over 95, that is tough. Not sure why the Royals would make this move. There is no point to it at all.

The guy is a big game pitcher and a horse. Is he even 26 yet? If Petitte can get $16M for one year, Zambrano will get well over $20M. He could rival A-Rod with the goofiness of his contract. Say what you want but he could be the best pitcher in baseball bar none by the end of this season.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Dec 8, 2006 -> 01:58 AM) What jersey was Jered Weaver wearing? And the ring ceremony would be the one time I wouldnt mind it because its 1 day your celebrating with a team you won the WS with. If Weaver was supporting the Cards thats different because its his brother and he is a rookie young guy you expect them not to be as professional(think Milledge after his 1st HR). While watching Jeff Weaver pitch in the WS, Jared Weaver was the poster child for Cardinal attire. Every stich of clothing was Cardinals. I get the feeling Buerhle will be signed long term. If so, I wish he would show up in a Cardinal jersey and hat.

Me too.

QUOTE(Guillen @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 05:02 PM) The Yanks had a lot of confidence in AROD's glove and look what happened there. I'm telling you, don't underestimate the difficulty in switching from SS to 3B. He played there and was good at it when Crede slumped a couple of years back.

QUOTE(philadelphia sox fan @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 04:43 PM) Doesn't ARod have a full no trade clause? Why would he want to move to Chicago? And do the White Sox really want a terrible fielder at what I think is the most important fielding position (3b) If Uribe was still on the team, he would play third and A-Rod short. Uribe played pretty good third when given the chance and with that arm would be better than Crede.

Outside of their cups of coffee as major league starters what is the difference between Floyd and McCarthy. McCarthy wet himself facing major league hitters so did Floyd last year.

Sun-Times stated that the White Sox watched film of Gavin Floyd all day yesterday and they feel that there was a mechanical issue that they can correct. They got back two major league arms under 25. There are not many of them. I do not believe Copper is the second coming but he got Thorton and Jenks to do something pretty well and he may be able to do it with Floyd. Last night I thought this trade sucked. Now I actually like it Number 5 options for next year McCarthy, Floyd, Broadway, Haegar, and Gio/Mccullogh at least there are options. There is also Matt Thorton.

KW likes to move pitchers. Could Gio, Haegar and Floyd/Broadway get Carl Crawford????? Please ease my pain and say yes.

Imagine the OBP if he and Thome bat around one another. Lord that is a ton of walks. As for speed and defense IF he is somewhat healthy which I am not sure of, he is a better leftfielder than Pods. That is a huge if though. In general he does not appear to fit this team as it causes more issues. Now what if there was a market for Thome? What if Thome was injured in the second half and they feel this is the player he is and not the one we saw in the first half? If there is value in Thome why not explore Bonds to replace Thome? Not saying I would like it but Bonds pays for himself and is off the books the next year. In the current market, Thome's numbers = $12-15M and he can still play first base. Think the Astros could use a lefthanded bat for firstbase and starter........ Think Schmidt could replace Garcia? Sorry I am bored with the inactivity. Bonds and Sox keeps popping up, there has to be something there. Maybe AJ and he actually got along....

Imagine what Cotts and Garcia could have gotten from Houston based on their needs.

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Dec 5, 2006 -> 03:52 PM) If this was to happen, it would equate to: Garcia, Gio, Haigwood for Thome, Madson/Floyd I would think KW could get more for Garcia. You're missing the $7M cash.

An 18 game winner for a 4th outfielder is not a good deal. I am hoping this is where the talk starts with the Phils and ends with Rollins, Lieber, Floyd and Rowand for Garcia, Uribe and Aardesma.

I am not so sure that Vernon Wells is not worth the Beltran money and the Sox will give it to him. I think this is a guy you spend big bucks on.

QUOTE(Vance Law @ Nov 29, 2006 -> 10:29 PM) Last year Crawford vs. Cleveland: on base 11 times (no xbh) 3 stolen bases Podsednik vs. Cleveland: on base 19 times (no xbh) 9 stolen bases Based on the fact the Sox played Cleveland about 19 times and Tampa played them maybe 6 or 9, what is the point of this?

QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Nov 29, 2006 -> 03:13 PM) There is no way in a trillion years that the Sox get Santana, Figgins and Shields for Crede and Garcia. But it would be nice.... It would be for Crede, Garcia and McCarthy it that scenario.

Can't the Japanese club also reject the Mets/second highest bidder if the Red Sox don't ink the deal?

The Tribune coverage of the cubs is back to being sickening. Actually all of the Chicago media coverage is. Soriano is a borderline great player. He is nowhere near worth $17M though. How he got a better contract than Beltran just goes to show how desperate the cubs are. My thinking though is they are trying to sex up the situation to sell the team. The new owner can then come in and blame these horrendous moves as to why they have to cut salary. I also though think the cubs are looking at how sad that 100 anniversary will be and pulling out all of the stops.

If any trade is made with Texas, Young better be part of it. Garcia straight up Garland or vazquez should get another arm with young Maybe it is McDougal and a starter for the Japanese reliever and Young.

Outside of facing us wasn't Santana a little down last year as oppossed to the previuos year? I could be wrong but I thought he tappered off, again not agaisnt us.

The thing I like most is Guillen has one less lefty righty option. It is harder to hit a straight 96 MPH fastball then a hanging slider. When a reliever comes in and needs a strikeout because there are men on base he must have a good fastball. That is my thought. Neither of these guys is good at throwing strikes. Aardesma is a more stuff guy and in the scheme of our pen, I actully am starting to warm to this trade. As for Coop, here is the theory. Work fast and throw f***ing strikes. That's it. If this guy can do that, we are set in the pen. Also in the Trib, Reynoso and Logan are the lefties that will replace Cotts.