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Agreed. The #2 spot in the order is not a run producing spot. It can sometimes be helpful for a player to hit there(see Jose Valentin in 2000) because he is behind a very fast player who is leading off and when on base is a threat to steal at anytime, and they are hitting in front of the #3 hitter, who is one of the best hitters on the team. They see a lot more fastballs, which helps their numbers. But they won't get a ton of RBI opportunities, like they would in the 5 or 6 spot. The 5 and 6 spot in the order is for a very good, mature, veteran hitter. Carlos is not a very good, mature, veteran hitter. In the 5 or 6 spot, he'd hit .250 or .260. He's shown us that already.

Those early July trades of Alomar and Everett, IMO, did not put us in the buyer category. It put us in a category of our own, the "Let's go get two good veteran hitters and see if they help turn our team around. If they don't, we're firesaling" category. Had we not had the success we had with those two, I guarantee you the team would look WAY different. You might see a bunch of people you've never heard of, and a few that you have. Our ace would be Buehrle, #2 Garland, #3 Wright, #4 Cotts, and #5 Diaz, or something like that. Our bullpen would probably not have Gordon, Wunsch, possibly Koch, possibly Marte too. I'm am happy as hell that Alomar and Everett did and have helped as much as they have. It would be ugly if they had not.

The Twins and Royals scare me the same. Both are good teams, and both are trying to win a division. I still like the Sox chances over either team.

Garland hasn't had 2 bad starts in a row. He's had 1 bad start in a row. In his start against the Royals, he pitched fine. Manuel was just a dips*** and took him out in the 6th inning, and Garland had only thrown 79 pitches. Jon was good for another inning or two, and had Manuel left Jon in there, the Sox would have won, guaranteed.

He's made all wrong decisions since the break, yet we've won 17 of 23? Bobby Cox, the manager who's been to the postseason 11, and soon to be 12 straight times, and been to the World Series 5 times, yet has only one ring? You could say that about Joe Torre, but not Bobby Cox.

Uh oh....Neal's a Cards fan? He's already on Roman's s***list then!

Hey Jim, thanks for the news. This move is a great move. Deepens the pen and adds another good starting pitcher.

I'm just curious After reading a few lists, I've seen Anderson, Nanita, and Sweeney atleast one or twice, and probably another draftee or two from this year as well. Maybe it's just me, but I personally would like to see how these guys do in a full season of baseball. I really can't consider rookie ball and low-A(and even high A) players as prospects.

I hope he doesn't go to the Yanks. f*** the Yankees :fyou

Dude, your watching too much Beavis and Butthead Hey, I didn't say I thought we were going to win. I just said the game wasn't over. And Beavis and Butthead is, quite possibly, the greatest cartoon ever created.

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We have an option for Loaiza for next year. I think it's worth $3.5 mill. I hope we get Buehrle inked to a 3 or 4 year deal, and we get Garland to the same(only his will be for slightly less $$$). What I hope for is that those 3's will make around $9 mill next year, and we resign the guys we need to(I'd love to have Robbie Alomar back, and I hope we pick up Jose's option. Gordon most likely will be here, I hope Maggs is resigned long term, and we have to keep one of Everett and Lee. Getting Daubach back wouldn't hurt, and I'd talk to Sandy to see if he wants to come back next year as a coach. I also believe Graffy is a FA, so getting him back would be nice as well) If we want to resign a lot of these guys, cash will need to be shelled out. I just hope JR does it. Our payroll will probably be around $70 mill. Not too much, to tell the truth.

Game ain't over yet. Get Garland out, get Schow or Wright in, and hope the offense can come back with 10 runs in the last 7 innings I've seen stranger things. Anyone remember last year against the Cubs? Down 8-0 after 3, came back and won 13-9. We can do it. And they had Kerry Wood on the hill, the A's have Ted Lilly. Our lineup kills lefties. This game ain't over yet.

Agreed. Cancer killed my cat, and it took my grandpa too(if I remember, his went into remission, and then he got real sick, and it just spread all over, and there was nothing we could do about it. He got pneumonia, and, well, you know the story) The Sox being in 1st helps a lot though.

Have you forgotten who our owner is? Hey, I never said it would happen. We all have fantasies you know.

That doesn't mean JR will dish out the $10 mill per that Colon will want. JR controls who will and won't sign with the White Sox, though if the Sox win, that assclown better pay up.

Mine was in good nature. Leaving MB in was the right call.

Atta kid Lee. Way to be. Cancer is a b**** to beat, but he did it. Good for you!

Yeah, probably is

And the Magic 8-ball says.... Leave Buehrle in!

Do you know how f***ing sweet it would be if, when he becomes a FA, he signed with us? That would be awesome. Then we'd have to resign Buehrle of course.

I just hope that someone with a rocket arm becomes available for trade. It would be nice to have a catcher with a rocket arm. Botch can still hit low 90s, can't he?

If we played the Cubs in the Series, the city of Chicago would be ripped apart....literally. It would be great for baseball, but I don't think the buildings of Chicago would like it.

Agreed. It's not like the Yanks robbed the Mariners. They gave up a quality guy as well...Even though they had him for all of 2 weeks... And, IMO, Nelson is better then Benetiz. That's why NY made the deal.

Nobody said anything is gonna be easy. But I feel a hell of a lot better with Buehrle, Colon, And Loaiza in the playoffs then I did Jim Parque, Mike Sirotka, And James Baldwin in 2000....lol... As do I. I think that we will atleast get to see if Manuel goes with these 3 and has a very big bullpen in the postseason, or if we go with Garland in game 4. I personally would like to see Garland as a long relief pitcher in the playoffs. We only really need three starters, since they have a day in between games when the teams change cities, and I'm not so sure Garland is quite up there with the top three as a big-game pitcher, so I don't think he'd do well in such big-game situations the playoffs provide. IMO, it depends. We play Oakland, I'm going to want Colon, Buehrle, and Loaiza going, and that's it. They will only get 3 days rest, but we will matchup much better against them with those 3 on the hill against their 3. If they send Harden out, we send Garland out. Neither have estabilished themselves as big game pitchers. If we play New York, Seattle, or Boston, and I'm thinking we send out our top 4. But that's just MHO.