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Holmberg back to the pen? What will they do when a Rodon returns? That would force out who...Pelfrey or MiGo, or six man rotation until a trade is made?

https://www.outsidepitchmlb.com/white-sox-r...ldo-lopez/63452 So much for the Verducci Theory on Lopez (30% increase in ip). Knock on wood.

Happ now with 7 homers, 218 average but 800+ ops. Schwarber still mired under Mendoza Line at .171

QUOTE (reiks12 @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 05:18 PM) Luis Robert must be absolutely drained after those 6 atbats hr had over the last week or so Two stolen base attempts under hot sun yesterday, lol...

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 05:18 PM) You keep saying this and continue to not acknowledge there a maturity curve with young players. Just because a young struggles in year one does not mean he will be a bad player and it most definitely doesn't mean the future is bleak. See late 80's learning curve for Glavine, Smoltz and Avery. At any rate, without Avi, Leury, Davidson, Sanchez, Kahnle and Swarzak doing so well, yeah...it would be bleak/er. Holland and Pelfrey have done about as well as can be expected.

http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?s...mp;ymd=20170614 Well, no LUIS RoBBer and no Reynaldo Lopez for Charlotte. Lamb instead. Guess they're getting pushed back a day, Fulmer was originally scheduled for tmrw. Moncada fouled off a bunch of pitches against LHP Cody Reed and flew out to opposite field. Couple borderline strike 3 calls went his way.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 04:59 PM) Who will they replace them with? If it's the highly touted young players, you should hope they won't be a bad team. Otherwise the future is bleak. It's not. They will be fine (see above). They would have to deal Avi, Kahnle and Abreu to fall off a cliff.

LF Willy Garcia/Delmonico CF Leury Engel Tilson May RF Garcia's 3B Davidson/Delmonico SS Anderson 2B Moncada 1B Abreu/Hayes DH Delmonico/Davidson/Hayes/Asche C. Narvaez/Smith Really creates a logjam with Sanchez, Saladino, Hanson (who can only play 2b). Leury's best position might be SS. Lots of options at least. The best lineup would put Moncada in LF and SANCHEZ at 2b. Or Leury SS, Anderson CF and Moncada in left.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 04:46 PM) I was joking. WaPO's piece specifically mentions the investigation didn't begin until a few days after Comey was fired. "The obstruction of justice investigation into the president began days after Comey was fired on May 9, according to people familiar with the matter. " Okay...hard to tell around here sometimes with all the "fake news" flying around. Just typing that phrase is annoying. What happened to facts?

Nats' pen getting beaten up again by Braves, but not high leverage guys. Well, Treinen sometimes is.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 04:40 PM) All this does is prove that Comey was lying when he said Trump wasn't under investigation. /s At THAT exact moment in time. Perhaps not since Mueller became involved, or Comey was fired.

Fifth right now. Go Royals, more to preserve the trade market. They're just 2 1/2 behind the Indians.

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 01:13 PM) Lot's of excitement on the board. I would caution the realistic part of the fan to take a step back and evaluate these picks ... Fulmer was our next ace when we drafted him a few years ago. The likelihood is that he'll be a 4-5 starter for a few years before transitioning into a bullpen piece. Burger sounds good on the surface as do a lot of these picks but things fall apart. The Sox best case scenario is to be a team like the Cardinals and I Think that's a possibility. I like that we're drafting baseball players, not just athleticism. If you look at sustained success you need to hit on 2-3 superstars and then supplement them with good baseball players. We'll have Moncada (hopefully) as our secured superstar. Abreu is solid for a DH for the next 3-4 years. No we fill in. The important picks won't be rounds 1-3 they will be rounds 7-20. That's where you find organizational depth that gets you through injuries and pushes everybody in the system to be better. Realistically out of Call, Fisher, Basabe, Sheets, Burger, etc. etc. only one or two will be regulars in the lineup. Others will be utility players and others will have a cup of coffee in the league. Look at the positions where we COULD be significantly above average...right now, that's Collins and the next TCU superstar like Matt Carpenter at catcher, Moncada, Robert and possibly Burger. Tim Anderson will struggle with his OPS numbers forever until he starts walking more. Obviously his defense has disappointed this year, but can easily rebound. Adding Abreu and Avi Garcia, depending on your views on those two, 5-6 players is a lot better than 1-2. And Anderson has all the tools and athleticism in the world. DH/1B isn't so hard for the final piece/s. Davidson is making some believers now. After that, Adolfo is the best bet. Which is why we need more trades, two more high draft picks and to deal some of that excess starting pitching depth as well at peak value...maybe a Japanese or Korean (without Kang's off the field issues.)

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 04:13 PM) Right on. I'd take the 280/340 part of that line with any decent pop. So maybe 280/340/430. That would play as a decent starting LF assuming his defense can be averageish. If that's the case, you'd have to prefer guys like Leury Garcia due to positional versatility and athleticism. Just depends on how hard Delmonico would have to work to become Melky Cabrera...who rates poorly but has the 3rd highest number of outfield assists of any current MLB player. Is he more Josh Fields or Alex Gordon?

http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20170614-...al-their-wealth The new, subtle ways the rich signal their wealth The rise of the aspirational class and its consumer habits is perhaps most salient in the United States. The US Consumer Expenditure Survey data reveals that, since 2007, the country’s top 1% (people earning upwards of $300,000 per year) are spending significantly less on material goods, while middle-income groups (earning approximately $70,000 per year) are spending the same, and their trend is upward. Eschewing an overt materialism, the rich are investing significantly more in education, retirement and health – all of which are immaterial, yet cost many times more than any handbag a middle-income consumer might buy. The top 1% now devote the greatest share of their expenditures to inconspicuous consumption, with education forming a significant portion of this spend (accounting for almost 6% of top 1% household expenditures, compared with just over 1% of middle-income spending). In fact, top 1% spending on education has increased 3.5 times since 1996, while middle-income spending on education has remained flat over the same time period. The vast chasm between middle-income and top 1% spending on education in the US is particularly concerning because, unlike material goods, education has become more and more expensive in recent decades. Thus, there is a greater need to devote financial resources to education to be able to afford it at all. According to Consumer Expenditure Survey data from 2003-2013, the price of college tuition increased 80%, while the cost of women’s apparel increased by just 6% over the same period. Middle-class lack of investment in education doesn’t suggest a lack of prioritising as much as it reveals that, for those in the 40th-60th quintiles, education is so cost-prohibitive it’s almost not worth trying to save for.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/pau...lise/index.html Paul Ryan gave an excellent speech...no arguments with anything said

Since Trump was elected president, Hill Republicans have often taken the brunt of the anger from progressives unhappy at the direction the country is headed. They’ve seen their town halls and offices overrun with protesters, and while the discourse is often civil, several Republican lawmakers have complained to POLITICO about security concerns. Some have even said they won’t hold town halls anymore for fear of their own safety. Others have received death threats. POLITICO reported on a special conference more than two months ago in which GOP leadership asked former cop-turned-Rep. David Reichert (R-Wash.) to brief members on how to ensure their staff are safe. His tips included asking police to monitor town halls, a practice that most have taken up. He also advised them to install heavy solid doors instead of glass at district offices and ensure each office has a security system in place as well as a backroom exit in case of emergencies. ... Two members, Reps. Ann Wagner (R-Mo.) and Al Green (D-Texas), stood up to talk about death threats they had received recently. Several Democrats leaving the briefing said they have received an influx of threats against them and their staffs in recent months as well and would be supportive of additional security measures. “The concern is not about our personal safety as much as it is about our staff and our families,” said Rep. Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.), chairman of the House Democratic Caucus. “The lack of uniformity, especially in the districts…to even have metal detectors or a security team in place, those nuances make it more difficult to ensure the safety of our staff.” Green said congressional leaders should consider increasing members’ annual expenditure allowance to provide extra money for security. “An attack on one of us should be an attack on all of us,” Green said he told members during the briefing. The Texas Democrat has recently received lynching threats after calling for Trump to be impeached. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/14/h...shooting-239552

Callis put it Moncada, Robert, Collins, Burger, Basabe then Sheets in terms of ordering, is very high on Sheets and said that Basabe could be higher simply because he hasn't even played a game yet...and obviously doesn't have all the across the board physical tools other than power and that pretty swing. Ranked Sox in vicinity of 5-10 overall based on all picks in first two days, mentioned we didn't have that extra high pick...very positive spin on that catcher we got in the 7th, thinks his defense will play as well as Burger at 3rd base. Said he probably would have gone with Lewis over LUIS Robert due to more certainty about his swing/offensive potential, but that he would have for sure have gone 1-5 or no worse than 6 (over Beck). Clear top five.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/14/d...shooting-239543 Trump gets high marks from Dems for his speech http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/14/j...ter-dead-239547 Hodgkinson had a much longer history of violence than originally reported Members of Congress ask for more security after Scalise shot at baseball practice https://www.yahoo.com/news/members-congress...-182006059.html Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Ga., who was at the baseball game, said Congress should look into letting its lawmakers carry guns in Washington, according to a CNN reporter. A lot of members were asking for changes,” said Rep. Ruben Gallego, D-Ariz., after the meeting. “They want the ability to use campaign dollars to pay for security at their homes, increasing our budgets so we can be in secure locations because we can’t always rent places with good security. And people were also talking about death threats we are getting. Everyone is getting death threats right now.” Rep. Raul Ruiz, D-Calif., told Yahoo News that he often receives death threats and his district office has been vandalized while staffers were inside. “In light of recent shootings and the political climate, I think there should be some ideas to beef up security not only in our homes and our communities and also while we’re here in D.C.,” Ruiz said.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 03:06 PM) Who is ready for Cavs/Warriors part 4? Even without Livingston or Iguodala, they'll be just fine...having fully integrated Durant now.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 03:07 PM) Saw the Mummy and wow, it's horrible. One of the most disappointing movies I've seen in a while. I was really excited for it and the whole Dark Universe franchise, I still am but this was just a complete mess. I saw a poster before I saw it and noticed that's there's 6 writers credited, you can tell they all worked separately by how they're credited and that's never a good sign. I hated Jake Johnson's character and how he was used. The movie tried to do and be multiple things and failed at all of them. I think all the talk about Tom Cruise's career being in jeopardy is extremely overblown. Yes this is a bad movie but it's not a flop. It'll probably make its budget back three times. Plus Tom Cruise has American Made out in September, which looks great and has a couple other movies in the pipeline which all sound interesting. I was really hoping he would be Slade Wilson, but that's for another time. That would mean a $1 billion film...as the costs ran to $325-345 million including marketing, p&a. Sitting on about $60 million going into its second weekend in China, where the Alien film is eventually out. Wonder Woman around $70 million, because not a known property here, but the reception of those who watch it is obviously very positive.

Just as predictable as not a single member of GOP arguing less guns or stricter laws would have prevented this...of course, they wouldn't say this directly to the family members if one of the four victims dies. Inevitably, someone will call and mention the poor, Chicago, gangs, police are outgunned, criminals will still get the guns no matter what. So everyone has a gun (assured mutual destruction) or nobody but the police and military, like here in China. Nobody likes either of those alternatives, right? And certainly, there are fatal stabbing here, with mentally deranged men often targeting elementary schools because females (90-95% of teachers) and young kids can't fight back as effectively. But obviously far fewer mass shootings like the one in Norway at that island retreat, or Philippines recently.

Adolfo April 20 k's in 16 games, May 28 k's in 24 games, June 14 k's in 10 games. Pretty consistent. Caulfield jinx again, 2 k's in first 2 at-bats. Now he might be at 30%, lol.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 02:28 PM) I'll agree with that. I'm using those deals as a recent deadline example for relief pitching. The Nationals are faced with a championship caliber roster and rotation, but a weak pen that is likely to result in their early playoff exit unless addressed. I would go as far to say the 2017 Nationals might be in a more desperate situation than the Cubs were in 2016, because the Cubs theoretical contention window is longer than that Nats. Robertson is not as good, no doubt, but Robertson is also very much available. I do not see an appreciably better and/or more proven closing option on the trade market right now, or at least one that will come at an equal or lesser cost. Adding a closer does not really solve their issues though, as their entire pen, outside of Albers, has been bad. Kahnle will cost too much for them, but a Robertson + Swarzak + cash for some combination of prospects not named Robles or Fedde I think could be realistic? Romero has a helluva arm...

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 14, 2017 -> 12:52 PM) This ^ Guys like Robles are simply not part of the conversation for non-legendary relief pitchers. You can make an argument that three of them are equal in value to Robles, but as mentioned before, the actual mechanics of adding three pitchers to your 25-man roster at the same time are incredibly complicated and come with additional costs, like clubhouse stability and possibly the loss of other players who are bad now but might be useful down the road. It works in video games but not in reality. White Flag trade to Giants?