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Hector Santiago was 6-0 with a 1.76 era last month with the Angels. Now with the Twins, he's literally throwing batting practice to every opponent. Could never get around that inconsistency.

Somehow have a feeling calling out Carlos Sanchez every game still won't result in Altuve-esque numbers. Worked tonight, though. At least they're playing Coats instead of Shuck. Of course, the danger is he looks pretty good down the stretch and they go into next year with Garcia/Coats.

Sure would be nice to see them realize Carlos Sanchez isn't a starting caliber player...oh, well, better shot at the #10 pick at least. Abreu still about 90 ops points below his career average...but at least providing some small glimmer of hope for 2017 with this run in the second half...as long as they limit the damage he can do to the offensive side.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 01:33 PM) Lawrie is actually a couple months younger than Saladino. It is probably a given that at some point he will land on the DL every year, but he has some power and plays so hard. I hope they keep him around for a while So you want a player who is unlikely to be much more than league average and will more than likely miss 30+ games next year? Sounds like a recipe for more mediocrity. And whatever you pay him is likely to be an overpay compared to the similar overall production you could have gotten out of Semien or Saladino at the same position. Of course, we have little choice but to keep trading young position players since JR has been unwilling to pull the trigger on signing a free agent pitcher to a large contract. You can keeping saying we MIGHT have signed Tanaka or MIGHT have signed Shark to an extension, but it doesn't count until it actually happens. Instead, we wind up with half measures like Shields who are then used as the excuse for not adding that big hitter in the middle of the order because they're weighing down payroll...or the excuse that Upton and Gordon have disappointed this year, therefore the only solution is getting lucky dumpster diving for Morneau, who will sign elsewhere in the offseason OR go into the tank when the White Sox overpay a 35+ veteran.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 02:11 PM) Sure thing. But if Peavy hadn't ripped his back muscle off his spine and TCQ actually recovered from punching a locker I have no doubt there would have been more playoff appearances. If Adam Dunn wasn't a pile of horsemeat, there would have been some more playoffs. I'm not saying the FO is perfect but I think people need to cut them some slack when they point their finger clammoring like an old drunk, "16 years, 2 playoffs!" That's insane. The team looked darn good every year on paper from 2001-2013. Many devastating injuries to key personnel. It's been 3 years since they decided to flip cores & go young, cut them some slack. Almost competed during the process too. Peavy was already high-risk because of his delivery. Quentin, Beckham....Konerko, very tightly wound players psychologically. KW always said you have to exercise due diligence. That slipped over the last decade. We traded Sergio Santos and acquired Nestor Molina, who KW wasn't even completely familiar with at the time of the announcement. That's not the only time they have been asleep at the wheel. Shields this year is another prime example.

KC was 12 games under .500 in July and pretty much seemed dead in the water. Have an outside chance at the WC with 27 games remaining in the Central, especially facing MN and the Sox. Face Miami and Boston on the road next week and then the Yankees at home...not to mention four at home vs. the A's. Of course, they've been terrible on the road, but have won 9/10 and six in a row with two more against the Twins. Game last night ended at 2:13 a.m.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 07:40 AM) In fairness, Sale may be more valuable than trading him. He is worth a"lot" and few teams have a "lot". In addition, from comments from Boston media after the deadline, the White Sox were asking an unreasonable return for him. So the White Sox need to trade from strength, which is starting pitching, so offseason they have to find a package for either Q or Rodon to add young talented players. That won't accomplish anything to market Rodon as if he's a #1 or 2 starter when it's still just potential...not to mention no acquiring team will be able to extend him. Selling low on him just creates another hole. As it is, we only have three starting pitchers we can count on for next year. We're stuck with Shields. You need to make a trade where you get at least 2 and hopefully three young impact players or it doesn't make sense to trade just for the sake of trading.

Are one of the Giambis available? Jose Canseco was actually pretty decent in 2001...at least he was entertaining. Wrath of Khan 2017 Version.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 03:17 AM) And the landscape has changed considerably since then. The sox were bought for $20 million in 1981. They MAKE $50 million in local cable rights PER YEAR now. They get another $46 million in national tv rights money. AND the recent MLB Advanced Media /Disney deal of a BILLION dollars for just a THIRD of MLBam's BamTech nets the sox a cool 33 million. For a 1/30th stake in a third of a media company spun off from another profitable media company. The money is there. Sure, but teams like the Mariners are earning $70 million more before the season even begins. Minimum, the White Sox would have to be in the $150 million range and probably closer to $160-165 million if they choose to spend themselves into contention (as a strategy). Thry'd have to repeat the 14-15 offseason (but actually be right on each player they targeted) in a market with 1/3rd the talent and twice as much competition. The money has always been there, accompanied by the fear of making a mistake on a big contract of over $100 million. Like it or not, that's the going rate for a middle of the order hitter in his prime.

http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=2...ap&sid=t494 Talk about a AAA debut you'd probably like to forget...

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 03:00 AM) When was this interview? It's horribly outdated. The Sox have a 20-25% stake in CSN Chicago, and Jerry's combine dholdings make him a majority voice in the network. And he put in charge Jim Corno, who he hired to run sportsvision(and later the dolan owned sportschannel and fsn-chicago). Oh, and when the cubs open their own network(with or with out Comcast as a partner), jerry has right of first refusal on the sale of the cubs' stake in CSN-Chicago. He pretty much owns his own network. Essentially it would be 50% Sox/Bulls, 25% Blackhawks and 25% CSN/NBC Universal unless they can sell off that 20% share in an advantageous way. Right now, the prospects for the Sox and Bulls in 2019 don't look so great...hard to say with the Blackhawks, but they will also theoretically be in the rebuilding stage three seasons from now.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 12:37 AM) Cmon Caulfield. Proof is in the number of rings. Ozzie has a WS ring. We fans probably will never celebrate another WS title in our lifetimes. It's that difficult to complete the deal when you are a small market team. You can make a poll. Guillen will get 5-10% of the vote. Al Lopez will win. You keep forgetting that there was only one playoff team from the AL each year, and it was invariably the Yankees at that time. He (Lopez) was much more consistent...almost all of his teams were good to near great. Guillen had 2007, 2009 and 2011 on his record, and the ignominious way in which he parted way with JR, one of his biggest cheerleaders. Ask Lip to rate them 1-5. He's also the only manager who spent the majority of his career managing the Sox in the HoF. Lip might even go with LaRussa or Tanner being better based on their accomplishments after leaving Chicago. http://www.hardballtimes.com/10-things-i-d...t-chuck-tanner/

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 03:57 PM) Here's a good one. Our politicians lie way too much and I'm getting sick of it. Why is everybody so hooked on "Republican" or "Democrat" pride? Folks, all these bastards on both sides do is lie, lie, lie. How are the Obama apologists going to explain this one?? I know, they'll blame the messenger or simply say, "Who cares? We have a better option than that moron Trump." I think everybody should care and impeach every one of these Presidents ASAP. There has to be some accountability for lying. I'm ready for free college education and healthcare for all. We're getting nothing out of our economic lives right now in America unless we're born into wealth. America is only for the 1 percenters right now and I'm sick of it. Republican, Democrat, who the f*** cares?? They are all corrupt. Just fix it!!! http://nypost.com/2016/08/18/state-departm...soners-release/ Why don't you run for office, school board, city council, state rep, etc.? It's our responsibility as citizens to be part of the solution, right?

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/cws/history/managers.jsp Al Lopez and Fielder Jones say hello. That said, Guillen is definitely Top 3-4.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 09:10 PM) Hey, many Sox fans on this board wanted a professional, quiet manager to run the club instead of the effective, yet outspoken Ozzie. People in some respects are getting what they asked for. Not nearly as effective in 2007, 2009 or 2011 especially...that said, at least every other year the team was entertaining at least. Maybe if he hadn't been drunk half the time, we really would have seen what he could do were he 100% serious like his first 2-3 years as a manager. As time went by, it became more about him and his family and less about the team.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 09:06 PM) 8 years? What are you talking about? Most of those years had badass rosters that looked competitve on paper. "Hey Paulie, screw your prime and your last good years, we're going to get some prospects. Piss off you old goateed-sometimes fool." GMAB Would a salesman who had tons of potential prospects, always talked the talk and yet invariably failed to close out those deals or meet his quotas (bare minimum, we're not talking outstanding or superior performance) continue to have his contract renewed unless he was the son or son in law of the owner?

Red Sox and Rangers would definitely be lesser matches in the offseason...if anything, Boston will try to get something useful back for Shaw/Ramirez and fit Moncada and Encarnacion into that juggernaut while figuring out how to rehab Sandoval into something useful. LAD....but that's only if Kershaw is sidelined well into 2017.

Leury kind of hearkens back to those halycon days when Micah, Carlos Sanchez and Saladino were seen as the future 2b. Saladino MIGHT still be a regular at some point, but the problem was you needed to combine all three of those guys into one to get a truly useful starting player at the big league level.

Wonder how many of the announced 20,011 were actually there...must have been a lot of those tickets sold in late April and early May.

On the plus side, a theoretical Phillies' win over the Cards pulls the Sox into the tenth and last protected pick by percentage points.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:04 PM) There is a difference between a typo and not getting names right. Especially when you find it inexcusable for others to get names wrong. The fact that I'm not getting paid to get the names right...are the mods now paying you a stipend that we don't know about?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:01 PM) It is Junior Guerra. For someone who still give KW crap for Berry/Barry you would think you would be better with names. He is also on the DL Okay Lawrence Halomes Barojas.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:58 PM) Preller is awesome. He is paying Shields more than Hahn. At least they have a clear direction now that the meddling owner has realized retooling on the fly doesn't work too well in the face ofbthe LAD and SFG financial juggernauts...

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:52 PM) You just mentioned 11injuries It is a huge number on a team that is banking on leading the league in healh, and have zero depth. And the unforgettable Matt Davidson... And you honestly think they'll blame injuries, their own lack of any quality depth, the Shields debacle and extend Ventura at the end of the year with those three excuses?

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:45 PM) Plus, Preller went up against Rick Hahn mano a mano, and Hahn was obliterated in the trade. A complete mismatch, like Hahn is against most GMs. And I would be shocked if the farm is rated any higher than #25 in December. Except for Erik Johnson, yeah. Hahn went into desperation mode because of the early hot start. Danks would probably be putting up the same numbers and quietly exiting if they went out 10-23, or even retired before the end of the season. If you add Javy Guerra, Ian Desmond and a decent veteran reliever and part time catcher to this roster, it's a very competitive team. Why they have stuck with Matt Albers this long after running off Danks, Latos and Rollins is completely beyond me.