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Even the bottom revenue team is spending more this off season than the Sox...maybe MLB will vote to also going very Sox compensatory picks to rebalance/restore competitiveness in the Central? "A's continue being active with acquisition of LHP Jeffrey Springs from Rays The Rays are sending Jeffrey Springs to the A's in exchange for RHP's Joe Boyle and Jacob Watters, as well as and OF Will Simpson. A compensatory draft pick will also be heading Tampa's way, according to ESPN's Jeff Passan. The 32-year-old Springs appeared in only 10 games over the past two seasons as he's dealt with ulnar neuritis, as well as Tommy John surgery. He is owed $10.5 million in each of the next two season and his contract features a club option of $15 million for 2027." Meanwhile, TB probably needs that money to fix their failing roof since the city doesn't want to pay. yahoo.com/sports

Air McNair might need to remove himself from the CSI Channel in order to participate ... but that would be par for the course with these White Sox.

That kind of goes against the Dayton Moore/FCA Code of Conduct...

Nobody has gotten expected performances from Madrigal Fulmer Collins...and it's not like even Rusty Kuntz could have turned Vaughn into an average major league LFer. Burger Crochet C.Montgomery (top 15 MiLB ranking) and Schultz all peaked in the Sox system. And roughly 75-80% of consensus high draft picks end their careers with 0-5 lifetime fWAR.

"Since 1990 the Sox have drafted in the top 10, 7 times. Chris Getz was here for 6 of those times. Please tell me how he lacked all this top level talent that the prior regimes had..." Why is Getz being judged for not developing Fulmer Collins Madrigal and Vaughn...? For Burger tearing two Achilles? None of Paddy's signings since Robert have amounted to anything....with the Sox or elsewhere. Let's also not act like he has had a huge treasure chest of talent, and Getz was also around as Crochet Colson and Schultz have each dramatically outperformed their lower draft slots. Sox are just a few years removed from having a bottom 3 minor league system...part of the reason due to Crochet being immediately pushed by Hahn into the 2020 pennant race, the Burger injury and Vaughn being recalled too quickly to fill an outfield hole.

"The Cubs traded for Tucker with full awareness that he might leave in 12 months and sign elsewhere. There is no guarantee that he will stay in Chicago or even that they will have an advantage in free-agent negotiations. In the case of the Yankees, they at least still have a top-five player in Aaron Judge following Soto’s departure, but the Cubs won’t likely have that type of security. The trio of players the Cubs gave up represent a steep price for a one-year rental. But it’s understandable that the price was so high. Tucker is the type of player who can take a team over the top as a contender or — perhaps more aptly in Chicago’s case — take a borderline playoff team and push it into October. With Soto signed, Tucker was the only player available with that kind of ability. But the Cubs need to be certain they have the rest of the pieces in place before Opening Day. Because they’ll likely get only one chance with Tucker on their roster." "The deal instantly makes Tucker the best player in Chicago..." Haha. https://sports.yahoo.com/with-addition-of-kyle-tucker-chicago-cubs-are-instantly-better--but-for-just-one-year-225812420.html

They want to get rid of the salary, more than anything. Maybe a 10-15% Cubs' premium. Owned $52 million in salary for age 34-35-36 seasons plus another $46 million in deferred money from 2025-2041. Who would pay Arenado $98 million for three years on the open market? https://www.fangraphs.com/players/nolan-arenado/9777/stats?position=3B 7.2 fWAR his last great season in 2022...now essentially a 3 fWAR player going forward, until he really craters at some point.

https://www.mlb.com/news/all-time-white-sox-top-draft-picks Which of those picks from 2015 through Crochet have amounted to anything elsewhere, tbough? There's also a big difference between #10/11 and Top 3, but the lower picks have outperformed recently and Madrigal/Vaughn have busted. Only Rodon (eventually) realized his potential.

Who can succeed in even getting banned from a board supporting one of the worst teams in the history of professional sports? That's a pretty low bar to clear. Reported.

More like Iowa Northwestern Wisconsin Indiana competing against the top of the Big 10...maybe once every five to ten years or so. But not consistently. Of the Central team in Chicago should be OSU MU PSU Oregon USC UCLA in this analogy but we are more like Rutgers.

OBE. Overcome by events.

Melky Cabrera as well...

Now you made me think of poor Colas claiming he was on a plantation lol.

Poor Corey Lee...he actually looked legit for most of the first half.

Not without George Steinbrenner running things...

https://sports.yahoo.com/white-sox-installed-former-navy-182907610.html How can you leave out Mahler?

I meant coming off his Mets' deal with an injury rehab. Brandon Woodruff and Hays might be better examples. HaSeong Kim. Questionable (at best) character guys like Clevinger/Bauer, etc. B/C/D free agent guys just haven't worked. At all.

Hahn wasn't even allowed to name his own manager...but is now slowly being made to look almost like a sympathetic Shakespearean character and not a major villain lol.

Who could the White Sox possibly sign to 1-3 year deals except overpays...vets on their last contracts or rehabbing guys like a Hays or Conforto that will bolt at the very chance to escape?

In the same way the risk with a Bellinger extension was too high...the cost for Tucker will be in the stratosphere with a 6-8 fWAR season. Cardinals are already retrenching from Goldschmidt/Arenado years. The opportunity is certainly there for Cincy or the Cubs with their farm, but Milwaukee starts out the clear favorite until someone unseats them.

Fine...if they can sell really high on Cease, like the Astros just did with Tucker. Otherwise, you're a team with six $100+ million contracts in Darvish (through 28), Machado, Tatis, Cronenworth, Bogaerts, Musgrove (TJS and signed through 27) going nowhere fast. Merrill might also be looking at an extension. If you're trading Cease, then why hold on to Michael King as well with limited control? If you don't intend to compete with the LAD and no longer worry about keeping your job (Preller) and keeping your sellouts...trade both those pitchers and put Darvish on the market as well if anyone will bite, because past trades and lack minors depth mean you now have to completely rebuild that rotation from scratch. In that sense, Sasaki to SD makes as much sense as anywhere not NY/LA/SF/Boston/Tor, along with Seattle and the Cubs.

Onion??? Why does Getz look eerily like Jack Nicholson?

This guy simply has to be related to either Getz or Brooks Boyer…he’s also forgetting we will be missing at least two (if not three) Top 1-3 draft picks because of the Jerry Reinsdorf “Sox are a large market club without acting like one draft rule.”

486 [Karoll] Just a reminder of the White Sox Draft and Development History, here is every White Sox hitter over the last 30+ years that the team drafted who became an All-Star with the team: Tim Anderson, Joe Crede, Ray Durham, Frank Thomas. That’s it. For 3 decades. That’s a bit misleading because you also have Ventura, McDowell, Alex Fernandez, Buehrle, Sale, Rodon, but almost all the success on the pitching side. Mike Cameron, but once again, nobody close to recent vintage. Beckham and Borchard disappointments really stand out. Zack Collins lol. Vaguely remember when Call and Fisher and Walker, more “refined” college picks were going to revolutionize the system.

I’m putting Robert down for at least 3 fWAR and Tatis for 4.5…closer to norms. Bullpen you only have Daniel Hudson, Bummer, Ian Hamilton, Foster off the top of my head. It’s basically Grandal Keuchel Steak and Potatoes Hendriks Kimbrel vet relievers like Kelly/Graveman Benintendi…