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Listening to this...I'm embarrassed for both of them.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 1, 2011 -> 03:30 PM) scottmerkin Scott Merkin As reference, Tigers 7 up on Twins in 2009 on Sept. 6. Didn't make playoffs ~ They went 11-15 after Sep. 6, which would be the same this year...86-76 Sox would have to go 18-10 to tie. Good luck with that.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 1, 2011 -> 11:17 AM) Yeah, I'm all for firing him now. But I won't pull that "THEY WON '05 IN SPITE OF OZZIE" bulls***. I agree. I think it's quite possible he's not as good at his job now as he was back then.

Bernstein just played 5 minutes of Peavy after the game. --blamed the live park, guys hitting the ball to left field. Not that he was hit hard. --blames himself for the relief appearance. probably set him back because his arm is dead. --can't wait for the winter, so he can have a regular offseason This guy should be shut down TO-DAY. Enough. Just get Humber and Santiago up here, and finish off the season without this guy.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 04:52 PM) I get tired of these posts where fans for some inexplicable reason don't want good players like Quentin on their team any more. How bout an outfield of Tank, DeAza and CQ next year. That would not be bad. I know Dayan is good but why do people always tire of guys on the current roster? It again is the backup quarterback syndrome. Rios is the dog that should go away; CQ should stay! While I'll give props for his production, I tend to not like grumpy players. I'm not saying he's bad in the clubhouse since I'm not there. But i find it hard to believe he's helping the situation when it comes to team chemistry. And yeah, Rios has three years left on his contract.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 04:54 PM) They talked about the Sox on PTI just now, and Wilbon honestly thinks the Sox will win the divison, and he also gave a shoutout to all the young players who are performing, and started to talk about Viciedo, but it went to commercial and he got cut off. Like his opinion on anything matters.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 04:35 PM) I think the biggest myth bought by managers and players is "there's plenty of baseball left". We'll never know, but I'd like to know what the Sox record would be right now if Ozzie let Buehrle finish the shutout on April 11th vs Oakland. Thornton comes in again after being bad, and then Pierre drops the ball on the warning track. Sox hitting goes into a tailspin, and they go 5-18 the next 23.

The sad thing is, the Sox had a respectable 16-12 August after starting 0-4. That 11-22 start just won't go away.

4 weeks, this season is ovah!

QUOTE (oldsox @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 10:35 AM) I wish we had included Thompson from Kanny. Maybe next year. AFL is for borderline guys that you're deciding whether to expose to the Rule 5, or add to the 40-man. Or guys that may be playing in AA or AAA the following year. Thompson could be in that category next year, and then play at Birmingham in 2013.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 10:32 AM) The only reason I care is perhaps Rios will be benched in favor of Carlos. Yeah, that makes sense. Pierre--De Aza- Viciedo Q at DH? That would work, assuming Konerko can play 1B.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 10:24 AM) What's the deal with Quentin? When is he due back? I can't explain it because he made the all-star game, and he's been a road warrior...but I really don't care if I ever see Q in a Sox uniform again. Viciedo is the future, and I'm happy to see him playing.

Anyone else think the whole waiver process is stupid? They should just set one trade deadline, and be done with it. Me personally, I think the only trade deadline should be six weeks before the end of the season...mid August. Especially if they expand the playoffs and more teams are in contention longer.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 10:51 PM) What people haven't realized is Detroit has had trouble playing .500 in the division. 33-20 is having trouble?

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 10:49 PM) is this the first time we've been 3 above .500 all year? i don't remember 6-3 and 7-4

.500 against the division...woo... Cle 7-3 Det 5-7 KC 5-6 Min 6-7 Do this the rest... Cle 6-2 Det 4-2 KC 5-2 Min 3-2 Tor 2-1 20-9, I'll give them a fighting chance. Tigers would have to go 14-13 to tie. Damn, running out of games.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 06:04 PM) Ugh, doubleheader tomorrow? Looks like the rain might break up as it approaches. Might be a delay, but I think they'll play tonight.

Long rain delay looks likely tonight.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Aug 29, 2011 -> 10:09 PM) I'm pretty sure he'd hit like first half Juan Pierre. Defense can only go so far. He wouldn't come up for his offense, although he hasn't been awful this year either. Pinch run, defense, he's already on the 40-man....bring him up next week.

QUOTE (SnB @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 11:51 AM) I'll take ANY meaningful baseball in August/September, even if it's just hanging on by a thread. I'm not happy about it, but I'll still be watching and hoping. That's how I feel about it too, but it doesn't give Kenny/Ozzie a pass if they get close but come up short.

All you need to know about Kenny Williams: 11 years 2 playoffs (assuming this year they won't make it), in the biggest market, in the weakest division 3 bad years the last three, with multiple mistakes A poor relationship with his manager A poor farm system The Sox entered the season "all-in". When you go all in and you lose, you have to leave the table. That means Kenny has to go. And I don't want to hear about him getting promoted either. His stamp shouldn't be on this team in any way anymore. He needs to go.

Maybe, but at least he'll be there. And the D-backs will have him cheap for the next 5 years.

Just lock this, so I'm not tempted to come back and point out how bad that trade was. 14-9, 3.61 28 starts, 187 innings. Oh, and he can rake too. He'll be starting Game 2 in Philadelphia.

If the Sox sweep the Twins and the Royals get one more vs Detroit, then the lead would be down to 3.5 going into the weekend. Then if the Sox take 2 of 3 in Detroit, the Sox would be down 2.5 with 25 left. If this plays out the rest of the week, I'll officially jump back on.

Escobar may be call up worthy.