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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 03:03 PM) Well I'm not a mechanics expert. Some people think Strasburg has bad mechanics. I just can't, in my mind anyway, justify trading somebody because of mechanics. Unless you really think you're getting a good package back. And Jackson/Kennedy was just not that. But I agree. That deal was nowhere near the abomination that was the Haren deal. Strasburg does have bad mechanics. http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/baseba...nStrasburg.html Analysis of Scherzer: http://www.disabledlistinformer.com/?p=476

QUOTE (danman31 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 03:23 PM) The difference was he wasn't hitting for power then. Considering he doesn't draw walks that puts a lot of pressure on his ability to hit for contact and power. He can hit .300 and actually not be that valuable as a corner outfielder. Before this year, that's what he pretty much did. He was basically the least valuable .290-.300 hitter in the league, especially if you add in his bad defense.

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 03:06 PM) Apparently last week, Rizzo wanted Garza from the Rays for Dunn. http://danny-knobler.blogs.cbssports.com/m...ntryListMiniCnt Haha, that trade won't even work in MLB 10 The Show.

QUOTE (balfanman @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 03:09 PM) I thought that Visquel had several pretty good offensive years with Cleveland. I know that he won't get into the Hall on his offensive prowess alone, but I thought that he was above average. He was pretty good for a couple of years. But for the majority of his career, he's been very mediocre.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 02:58 PM) You have to add the qualifier "assuming the asking price is the same". It won't be and it shouldn't be. Scott is going to be here next year if we do get him. A year and two months of a .365 wOBA hitter is a lot more valuable than 2 months of a .340 wOBA hitter (that's what ZiPS is projecting for Edmonds).

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 01:39 PM) I still think the Scherzer trade was pretty retarded. You could at least understand some of their thinking in that trade and you can pinpoint why they made it. They obviously overrated Jackson, but a lot of people did last year. They wanted Jackson because they thought they could win this year. Plus, Kennedy's been a decent pitcher for them, nothing great though. They also had concerns about Scherzer, which isn't surprising. Max's mechanics aren't exactly Cliff Lee-like. The deal's a win for the Tigers, no doubt, but I don't think it was retarded or anywhere near as bad as the Dan Haren deal that just took place.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 02:46 PM) I think I can say this about 2/3 of the garbage players in the big leagues...he'd still be better than Kotsay during the regression. Yeah, that's true. Like I said, he does make sense for this team and he's surprisingly having a hell of a year (2.5 WAR). But if I have a choice of Luke Scott or Jim Edmonds, I'd take Scott in a heartbeat.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 02:41 PM) Hitting .289, .866 OPS. I'd totally give up someone random from A-ball for that. .350 BABIP, unsustainable line drive rate of 29%, lots of fly balls. He's due for a regression and I don't want him on this team when it happens. He would make sense for this team, but I sure wouldn't consider him somebody you'd really like to have.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 02:36 PM) Jim Edmonds anyone? Yeah, he's old, but the man knows how to hit, is somehow more durable than Quentin, and still plays a decent OF. I'm not saying he'd even be the answer at DH, but at the very least he's an upgrade over both Jones and Kotsay, and is a good backup option just in case Quentin breaks his back while taking a shower. That'd be like a last resort type of move.

Why can't Ozzie just sit Pierre if he really needs rest? Quentin in RF while our second best fielder DHs makes me mad.

I'm actually planning to go to a game around this time.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 01:40 PM) Call me crazy, but I'd much rather go after Luke Scott than Dunn. Not saying Dunn isn't the better player, but I think Scott would be the better option for us. He would not cost us nearly as much as Dunn in regards to cash and prospects. I'm thinking along the same lines.

Gerrardo Parra never walks. We don't need more people who can't get on base with little power.

Frank > Kotsay + Jones

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 01:34 PM) Too be honest, after that Haren trade (do we know who the PTBNL was yet?), I don't think the D-Backs have any idea what they are doing. They have made a lot of boneheaded moves in the past couple years, IMO. The PTBNL is Skaggs. I don't think they've made "boneheaded" moves. Josh Byrnes was a decent GM. He got Johnson and LaRoche for next to nothing this year in terms of finances. The only real boneheaded move came after Byrnes got fired and the Haren one is definitely that.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 01:29 PM) But Quentin is a really bad one. If Teahen is even marginally better, then DH Quentin. UZR updates came out today. Quentin's now at an awesome -17.6. I'd rather have Brad Hawpe out there.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 01:24 PM) Branyan has been dealing with a sore back, could return to the lineup tonight. Well that's certainly bad news.

If we don't get a big bat at the deadline, Teahen should go play RF and bat 6th. In 2007, Teahen played 137 games in right and had a UZR of +9. Unfortunately, ever since, in 124 games, his UZR there has been -13. So yeah, kind of a mixed bag, but all I know is that those numbers are much better than Quentin's.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 01:21 PM) No such animal. You know what I meant. None of the prospects they got were Major-League ready impact prospects, like Jesus Montero, Mike Trout, Desmond Jennings, etc.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 01:10 PM) Gavin over his last 63 IP: 0 HR With this Mariners offense, that should continue. But you never know with these things... BTW, where's Russell Branyan?

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 01:08 PM) Kenny likes to acquire players that aren't "available" in the traditional sense. I'd love for him to target Nolasco. Buehrle Nolasco Danks Floyd Garcia -- 2011 Peavy Danks Nolasco Buehrle Floyd That's the goods ^ there. Nice. I would really like to have Nolasco. Although his home run problems are...a bit worrisome in this park.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 12:40 PM) OK Shipps, let's be more honest here. Hypothetically, I'm playing Z. Here's my offer for Ichiro: Beckham, Hudson, Viciedo, Santos, and you take on either Jack Wilson or Chone Figgins (you get to pick). You give me that, I ask Ichiro to waive his NTC. I would so do that deal. 1. Ichiro gets you revenue from Japan and lots of it. Really puts us on the map internationally. 2. Ichiro seems like the kind of guy who is conditioned so well that he can probably play at this level until he's 40. 3. As bad as Figgins has been this year, if you can get Ichiro and him for the next 3 seasons, why the hell not? 4. An outfield of Ichiro, Rios, and Pierre is like defensive heaven. 5. Figgins can fill in for Gordon, not much of a performance difference there anyhow. You gotta hope that Figgins rebounds next year though.

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 12:27 PM) So he's either saying they are gonna win 71 games, 43 games, or score 127.5 ppg. Got it He's saying they'll be 30 over .500, like 56-26. So he's saying that adding him might result in 4-5 extra wins. To be honest with you, if he's healthy and even half the player he was back in 07, it's entirely possible.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 27, 2010 -> 12:24 PM) Or he'd need to pitch his ass off, ala Santana from like 04. If he goes all Josh Johnson on the AL from here on out, and lowers his ERA to about 2.75, and wins 18 or so games, he's probably got it in the bag. I'm not going to count on that though. I'll take what you said.

Danks has a slight chance at the Cy Young. Not saying he really deserves it per say (Cliff Lee should definitely get it), but the writers who vote for these things don't always pick the best pitcher. ZiPS RoS has Danks going 6-4 for the rest of the season. They also have him posting a 3.89 ERA. Even if Danks posts that for his next 13 starts, his ERA ends up at 3.48. If Danks goes 6-4, he's going to have 17 wins on the year. If he maintains a ERA around the 3.2-3.3 range, there's a good chance he could get top 5 consideration along with guys like Price, Buchholz, Sabathia, Lee, and Lester. In order for him to win it, he'd need all of those guys to fail really badly.