Chicago White Sox

Sweep these fucks.

So @ChiSox59 recently put together an excellent offseason plan that really got me excited and made it clear to me just how important landing Gerrit Cole is. He without question would fill our biggest hole, which is a durable, proven ace that can anchor our young pitching and lead a postseason charge. Yes, we could find other arms to help anchor the staff, but they are unlikely to be as dominant as Cole should be over the course of our window. Imagine a staff built around Cole, Giolito, Kopech, & Cease. While we have the financial flexibility available that’s what we should be shooting for. Now for the hard part. I have been and remain somewhat skeptical they can get this done. IMO, Cole should garner close to the largest contract in baseball history for a pitcher. That would be put him somewhere around 7/$210M if I had to guess. To me, the dollars are not the problem as we literally just offered Machado $250M and can easily afford to pay this guy $30M/year. No, the real concern is the number of years and Reinsdorf’s general risk aversion to pitching. The longest non pre-arb deal we’ve ever given out to a pitcher is the five year commitment we made to John Danks and that ended badly for us. So here’s my question, can Hahn & KW convince Jerry that this is the ultimate finishing move to the rebuild and one that would put us in a tremendous spot to win a World Series? Hahn has claimed multiple times these past few years that many of the pre-conceived notions of the organization are slowly being wiped away (would never rebuild, would never trade with the Cubs, would never go into the LatAm penalty box). The biggest one remaining is signing a stud free agent and the Sox epically blew the Machado swepstakes after swinging their dicks around all offseason. Signing Cole is their chance to make up for that and it’s Jerry’s opportunity to prove once and for all that’s he’s willing to do whatever it takes to win one last World Series. What are your thoughts here? Do you think we make a serious pursuit? How far do you think we’re willing to go? Who the are biggest threats here? How much do you think he ultimately gets? Please share your thoughts and don’t just be a hater and simply say “no”. Make a case why or why not this may be possible.

Lol...you literally just called Bummer a “dime a dozen” guy the other day.

You told us last year when he was a gas can that he had TOR stuff. Then when he finally shows that type of ability, you jump ship at the first rough patch. You need to sit back, take a deep breath, and not overact every time things go off the rails slightly. Your instincts about Giolito were right, he is very much a TOR type starter and you should be enjoying that, not waiting for something bad to happen.

Wow, just read this thread. The amount of hot takes every time someone hits a rough patch is outstanding.

Kid will easily hit 10 bombs with the juiced ball.

If Stiever was in the Yankees system he’d probably be a top 100 prospect.

Might not have 35 HR power? Have you seen what the juiced ball has done to baseball fathom?

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He might have, but the team has kind of just zoned him out per Ricky and that’s perfectly acceptable apparently!

But @OneDog847 promised we were seeing the start of some serious second half regression!!

But how would DHing prevent him from doing that?

I find it interesting that Ricky basically refused to DH Collins when McCann was catchinh but quickly DHs Castillo as soon as he’s back from injury.

Matt Boyd is going to cost a lot more than a few guys in the 10 to 20 range.

No reason to post this Jack, we all know you’ll automatically expect the worst.

Interesting list. The Basabe ranking is quite frankly ridiculous and I fully expect them to look like assholes a year from now when his hand is fully recovered.

I was thinking the same thing in regards to Tom Longo.

I’m fine with negativity and try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but at this point I have no choice because he’s adding nothing of substance.

Lol...you’re reading comprehension is a little off here as I wasn’t comparing you to Hawk. But you’re right about one thing, I try to be an optimist as long as I’m also being objective. The Machado miss has taught me to reassess some things (which can be seen in my recent comment about Cole), but that doesn’t mean we should all go full Chicken Little like you have and be completely irrational.

@OneDog847 makes @Moan4Yoan look like a Hawk Harrelson level homer.

I FUCKING LOVE IT! Seriously, there is zero reason they can’t pull off something like this. I’m still skeptical on our ability to land Cole (due to years), but without question he’s what we need and missing out on Machado could be a blessing in disguise if it lets us commit those resources to Cole.

Bat speed and raw power.

They aren’t wasting another year of cheap Moncada, Giolito, Eloy, Timmy, etc. They’re going to be aggressive this offseason and put their financial flexibility to work. As for the defense, Robert & Madrigal will approve CF & 2B accordingly. If Jose is brought back, my guess is he DHs more. We’ll have to see what they do in RF, but overall the defense should be good outside of a few spots.

The point is replacing a lot of roster spots is very much possible and like 90% of our core will be in place next year. We’ll need a couple big additions no doubt (RF & SP), but acting like a couple bench spots and the last guy in the bullpen are what will hold us back is absurd. The resources are there to fill our major holes, Hahn just has to execute a strong offseason for once.

Another guy who I wouldn’t have minded giving a look at 2B over Sanchez, although very unlikely we would have amounted to anything.