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QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 23, 2017 -> 08:09 PM) I think this is the hardest position to fill in baseball. Will we ever see another Munson or Fisk? Who was better between those two guys? I say Fisk.
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QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 09:59 PM) I don't like unloading on any player especially one of our current or former highly touted prospects, but I am having a hard time seeing Fulmer as a major league pitcher. He has not been able to develop a controlled delivery, something that is necessary for getting rhythm and consistency on the mound. He doesn't even look good out there. Very disappointed seeing this tonight after all the inning he has thrown down in the minors. I just did not see any progress at all. no poise on the mound, no control. I hope I am wrong, but it looks like picking him in the first round was a major mistake. I watched the Fulmer implosion. First inning was great. First hitter up in second inning (Vargus?) kept fouling off pitches after pitch, finally getting his walk. Those were good pitches. Then finally the walk, and it was all over. If I could sense it watching on TV, I'm sure the Twins could, too.
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QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 06:57 PM) Think Kopech will end up the prize of that trade. But that sucks because he can't really exceed Sale, so we'll have ended up trading Sale for a guy who might approach his talents, a highly touted MIer who strikes out way too much and s***tily switch hits, and two longshot back end pieces. I don't honestly think this will end up a positive rebuilding trade for us. I said that a while back and was criticized. IOW, I agree. Moncada obviously has a lot of trouble hitting a breaking pitch. So that's what he will be seeing. Hope he figures it out.
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QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 02:26 PM) He isn't good at it. If they didn't have Arenado, he would have been given a shot at third.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 21, 2017 -> 02:25 PM) I have really little interest in giving up any of the White Sox's young pitchers in a "prospect for prospect" kind of swap right now, at least not until we know better where our needs are. We could give up a pitcher to fill a position and then have one of our current guys step up big time next year. If you don't think he's a major league 3b and you think he's a corner OF or a 1b, well we've got plenty of guys at those positions already who "might" step up and be something if they get playing time - no reason to give up a pitcher for that. However...the one asset we should be looking to move this offseason is Avisail Garcia. Whether or not we get a fair offer for him I don't know, but that's a guy who could fit in Colorado given that Gonzalez's contract is up this offseason and they have had some of the worst production out of RF in the national league this year. They do have one OF prospect, some guy named Tapia who is an international signing/23 year old, but that's the only guy they have to step in for Gonzalez after this season as of now. So there's at least a potential match. They have Dahl coming back from DL.
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Burger with the day off.
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8/20 White Sox v. Texas Rangers
oldsox replied to CaliSoxFanViaSWside's topic in 2017 Season in Review
QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 20, 2017 -> 03:25 PM) He will but he should still be traded Even if we don't get anything of value? -
QUOTE (Wanne @ Aug 18, 2017 -> 06:00 PM) at this point the Cards wouldn't surprise me at all. Like most have said...just how the hell a contender passed on him is mind boggling. It's not like he has this massive contract... $5.9 Million. Call it a Mil a month. Free Agent after this year.
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2017 Offseason White Sox News, Notes, and Tweets thread
oldsox replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 09:55 AM) How often does Rick Hahn piss in your cereal? Classy comment, Wite. Real classy. Did you learn responses like this in Moderator School? -
Rick Hahn & Kenny Williams Sign Long Term Extensions
oldsox replied to GGajewski18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 02:07 PM) Good to know that Basabe and Diaz will never be good again. Tell me why you like that part of the Sale trade. -
2017 Offseason White Sox News, Notes, and Tweets thread
oldsox replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 03:45 PM) ChicagoSportsVerified account @ChicagoSports 2h2 hours ago After rapid bullpen turnover, the White Sox's closer situation is "fluid" http://trib.in/2x1iqpa via @ChiTribKane Which means that if anyone in the bullpen actually comes in and saves a game, he will be gone before the sun comes up. -
Herm Edwards Logic: "You play to win the game. Hello. You play to win the game."
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Rick Hahn & Kenny Williams Sign Long Term Extensions
oldsox replied to GGajewski18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 11:48 AM) They made various changes in the development and scouting areas[/b], but also can't assume those are improvements either. And, it was still the new evaluators that got us Basabe and Diaz as part of the Sale trade. As good a prospect as Kopech is, he is not enough to justify trading Sale. We should have received 4 legitimate prospects, not just two. It did not take long to realize that it is Moncada and Kopech for Sale. And, it was the new evaluators that gave us the Shields/Tatis trade. -
QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 11:53 PM) With Hanson's ego issues, I feel like you'd basically be cutting him by putting him on a phantom DL stint. Jose, what are we talking about here?
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Giancarlo Stanton cleared revocable waivers. He can opt out after 2020. $26ish Million per yr for next 3 yrs. Would outgoing ownership have the testicles to do it? Dodgers must be salivating, but Marlins would never do it IMO.
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QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Aug 13, 2017 -> 03:43 PM) Tatis JR. first 18 year old ever to reach 20/20 in a minor league season. Stats are crazy since April 21st. Where would he be on our Top Prospect List?
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Last week's four game winning streak scared the poop out of the front office, and Clippard contributed to a few wins lately. He gawn.
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It's a joke that Pipeline does not have Zavala in our Top 30. At least Future Sox has him pegged at # 27 in out composite list.
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Royals at ReyLo Game Thread -The ReyLo Game-
oldsox replied to Ducksnort's topic in 2017 Season in Review
QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 09:44 PM) Jesus Christ, in a three hour broadcast you're crying about a 3-5 minute bit? What is wrong with you? "They made me try to remember Don Cooper's number!!! Why can't we go back to Hawk cursing at umpires and telling stories that my grandfather remembers and saying racist things about the non-white players?" Never heard that. One example, please? I could be wrong, but.... Now, you Chicago guys hear Hawk more than I do, since I only have the Comcast baseball package. Hawk is rarely on it. I just don't recall him sounding like a racist. -
Royals at ReyLo Game Thread -The ReyLo Game-
oldsox replied to Ducksnort's topic in 2017 Season in Review
QUOTE (ReyLo @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 08:43 PM) Ross Gload Better looking than Gload -
Royals at ReyLo Game Thread -The ReyLo Game-
oldsox replied to Ducksnort's topic in 2017 Season in Review
QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 09:05 PM) For everyone that complains about Hawk taking about old players, it's not much better with Sticks and Stone. I highly doubt much of the audience cares about players from the late 70s disagree. -
QUOTE (steveno89 @ Aug 10, 2017 -> 10:14 AM) He's young so I'll give him some benefit of the doubt, but at the same time if he is truly an elite prospect he should be doing more than just holding his own. Next season will be telling as he gets bumped up to A+ Winston Salem. We need to see more pop and arguably more from the bat in general. Oh so true. We have to remember, the Yanks are very shrewd. That is, they might have given up on Rutherford as an "elite" prospect. Otherwise, they would not have let him go, possibly. AFL might be very good for him.
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QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Aug 11, 2017 -> 01:48 PM) If a player is in the majors they cease to be a prospect. Yes, except for September call-ups.
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Victor Diaz has had a "spotty" season. Okay.
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I sure wish Delmonico could play third.
