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I don't totally understand this Competitive Balance section of the draft. If the White Sox flounder this year, what are the chances of getting this pick next year?

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jun 5, 2014 -> 12:38 PM) I will happily take any of those three with Aiken being my first choice but I could flip a coin between Nola and Kolek. Exactly. Nola put up very good numbers the last two seasons at LSU, yet most are still so focused on Rodon. I just don't get it. Rodon has a hot girlfriend.

I have really enjoyed this thread since it was started.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 03:02 PM) Hawkins has now played 162 regular season games for Winston-Salem. .204/.280/.421/.701 65 XBH Struck out 33% of the time. He's trending in the right direction though. enough to be a top 5 prospect?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 08:35 PM) If you want a decent return, part of the matter is not including guys who are pretty much useless. Balta, I don't understand what you just said.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 01:00 PM) That was great. Ventura #10 overall 1988 Thomas #7 overall 1989 Guillen - Intl FA Johnson acquired via trade from the Cardinals for Jose DeLeon who was received for the White Sox to return rule V pick Bobby Bonilla Cora - acquired via trade from Padres Kark - #14 overall 1982 McDowell - #5 overall 1987 Fernandez - #4 overall 1990 Alvarez - Intl FA Hernandez #16 overall 1986 It took a decade of sucking to build that core. I never knew or forgot that Kark was a first rounder.

QUOTE (Chris Sale @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 04:37 PM) Why is De Aza batting 6th? Wouldn't you want him batting as little as humanely possible? Also, Beckett is a righty. Why isn't Gillaspie in there? I wish Leury could play the OF lol. It would be 'humane' if Sox cut De Aza.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 01:14 PM) His draft record is tied to him pushing the limits of the payroll every year and not having anything left over to spend on amateur talent and having to draft players that he could get at a discount. Did Kenny get a discount for Hawkins, Honel, Broadway, Borchard, Mitchell, et al? Can't remember.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 07:29 AM) After reading everything, I'm kind of warming up to Nola. He may not have quite the upside of the other 3, but he still has a high end upside and appears to be not only the most likely to reach it, but the most likely to reach it first. Also, if drafting Nola allows us to go overslot with our 2nd and/or 3rd pick then that's worthy of consideration. We aren't overloaded with prospects. If we can get better prospects with our 2/3 picks because we drafted Nola at 1, then with our situation that might be worth it. That being said, and I'm not a big baseball draft guy, but from what I've seen and heard I'd still prefer Rodon. But Nola might be my #2. HS pitchers this early are very risky, Keith Law said last night that Nola could be in the majors this year and in a rotation next year.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jun 3, 2014 -> 04:29 PM) He didn't get enough for Peavey, Rios and Reed, that's for sure. The best trade he made was Soptic for Gillaspie. The Peavy trade was good, can't blame Garcia's injury on Hahn. Got two excellent pitching prospects with Avisail. Peavy has been hit pretty hard this year. Rest of post is valid.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 12:23 AM) He's a little long in the tooth for that league, though, isn't he? Age is one thing, number of years in pro ball is another. He's right where he belongs, same as Kevan Smith.

QUOTE (MAX @ Jun 3, 2014 -> 04:01 PM) In what world is an unkempt beard offensive? Not in prison Not on a deserted island Not in hoboland

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 3, 2014 -> 02:26 PM) Athletes aren't role models. At least they shouldn't be. Tell that to little kids. Geez, when I was one, I sure idolized guys like Minoso, Appling, Fox, Pierce, Aparicio, etc.

Thanks for mentioning Kevan Smith. He can obviously hit, but no one lists him anywhere on prospect lists, because he is too, too OLD. Including the White Sox web site. Not going to name names.... Kevan, I hope you keep up the hot streak; I'm pulling for you.

QUOTE (Nokona @ Jun 3, 2014 -> 06:36 PM) Am I the only one that doesn't like Rodon's delivery? No, it looks like the delivery of a lefty brought in to face a lefty and then go to showers.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 3, 2014 -> 04:22 PM) Courtney Hawkins was the 13th overall draft pick and Micker Adolfo was the #9 prospect who signed for a $1.6 million signing bonus. They're incredibly talented players and both are incredibly young still too. I mean, if you want the Sox to stop bringing in guys with LTP, projectable bodies, incredible bat speed, and off the charts athleticism, that's your prerogative, but maybe we should at least halt the criticism of Adolfo until he has a professional at bat just because he has a similar scouting report to Courtney Hawkins (who, even with a dropping average, has shown the ability to walk and very good power). I think Hawkins had Wite at the back flip.

Are there any adverse reports on any of the big three regarding character/smarts/etc? You get this all the time in football, for obvious reasons.

I respect a team wanting its players to look reasonably 'sharp'. Who needs all the excess facial hair. Just play the game. Be a role model. Oakland did it (facial hair) in the 70's and it was kind of cool, but when everyone does it, it is just a bunch of copycats. Maybe the chicks like it; Lillian can opine here. Same with the necklaces made of what looks like woven fabric. Copycats. Maybe the chicks like that, too. Just play the game, and button your shirts, Napier and Gomes et al.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 2, 2014 -> 07:04 PM) Oh yea Marte. Also while doing some research for this thread I ran across the name: Mike MacDougal. Also, Nick Massett was a thing for a minute. Coop can't fix'em all -- but overall the Sox have acquired so much low cost above replacement pitching it's kept them afloat and papered over a really bad position player development history. Other teams have gotten pitchers off the scrap heap who helped.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jun 1, 2014 -> 10:38 PM) Semien was sent down to make room for activating Abreu tomorrow. Still have no clue what Charlotte will do with all the infielders. Actually, the Charlotte roster is now at 25 includung Semein. Micah due to come back soon will make 26. They have another infielder named Michael Johnson who isn't playing much and is probably expendable.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 1, 2014 -> 09:00 PM) How do you give up 8 BB's in 5 innings?? Wow. I think it's called being afraid to put the ball over the plate because then the hitter will hit it very hard.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jun 2, 2014 -> 02:01 AM) Off the wall question, but did anybody ever sign Keppinger? Nope.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 1, 2014 -> 04:29 PM) Even more so in person He made pitching look very easy on TV.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 1, 2014 -> 11:16 AM) What an absolutely bizarre thing to ask. No, the answer is 26.

I thought either Leury or Sierra would have been sent down or DFA'd. Or De Aza, preferably.