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I think Swirsk and others will rotate around as they search for a permanent fix.

QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 10:36 PM) I was talking to a bunch of cubs fans last night. Just to test the waters, i threw out a random trade proposal of "as cubs fans, would you trade Shwarber for Rodon straight up?" Responding "No" all around. Am I nuts to think they are nuts? QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 10:40 PM) I had a Cub fan tell me trading Schwarber for Q straight up was idiotic. Cubs fans like having a weak rotation. Am I the only person in this world that thinks Schwarber's declining stats through out the season and lack of position are bad omens?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2...valry/77174950/ Nightengale: Jason Heyward a good get for Cubs, but NL Central far from a done deal As has been stated in this thread, so much of Heyward's value is tied up in him being the best right fielder in the world. In center, this could really bite the Cubs.

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Fun hypothetical that has 0 chance in happening: If Trayce and Soler were swapped, how would it affect the teams and what would the national and local reactions be? I'd say our reaction here would be that Soler is just going to be another Avi and now we're going to see Trayce grow into a star with the Cubs as helps move Heyward to RF. National media would start talking about Trayce's potential and what led the Cubs to give up on Soler.

Found SoxTalk through Future Sox, was trying to research prospects. Never dealt with WSI. As far as forums go, this is one of the best I've ever been a part of.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 01:44 AM) Videos of him slamming his helmet down, punching a water cooler, huffing around enraged in the dugout answered the "rage-filled" equation. Oh man, we should trade this Chris Sale guy.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 12, 2015 -> 08:11 AM) I honestly believe Theo/Jed are bluffing. Heyward is such a question mark in CF. There is no way they go into the season with Schwarber and Soler as the corner OFs. That D would be bad. I still think Heyward is their RF on opening day and Soler (or Baez) is dealt for a CF. This has to be the case. When I was on board for signing Heyward, it was under the assumption he'd have Trayce or Eaton in center next to him. Now Heyward has to cover for both Schwarber AND Soler?

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 01:51 AM) Yeah, I get that....yet no one is actually providing any points or support behind their reasoning... It makes no sense for the Reds. Eaton is young, but won't be by the time they next compete.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 01:47 AM) Well obviously Frazier is a great get. But Bruce is a salary dump at this point. But when you factor in Frazier has only 2 years of team control at about $20M, and Eaton has 6 years of team control at $41M, I think it starts to balance out tremendously. Frazier was a 4.4 fWAR player. Eaton was a 3.6 fWAR. Frazier was a 4.0 bWAR player. Eaton was a 3.9 bWAR. Steamer projects Frazier at a 1.0 higher WAR than Eaton in 2016, while getting paid 3x as much. I assume the outrage here is not the overvaluing of Frazier, but rather the undervaluing of Eaton and his tremendously team friendly deal. I mean, Eaton earned more than HALF of his entire contract just in 2015 alone. Frazier is providing surplus value over his contract as well, but for only 2 more years, at at age 31 and 32. Eaton will be 28 and 29 over those same seasons. THAT is why I was/am torn on it still. It's more like none of us see any universe where the Reds make that deal.

I feel like players that made the All-Star team or got MVP votes while with the Sox should be disqualified for this list.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 05:13 PM) The players said they wanted to run plays from last year. Well that's just silly.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 03:28 PM) Having worked with women in newsrooms, the personal emails, stalking and comments they receive far surpasses anything you can imagine. This has been a well discussed and documented problem beyond Julie Dicaro and not something to dismiss because you don't like her personally. A lot of my female friends have changed their facebook name once they've entered the workplace.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 02:27 PM) It's ok to root for your team, but I laugh whenever we make moves in the winter people assume they are GOOD moves. Lawrie is what he is (cliche). He's not going to emerge as a star.

QUOTE (Downtown518 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 01:27 PM) Scot Gregor ‏@scotgregor 3m3 minutes ago Per @JPerrotto, #WhiteSox offered #Pirates Adam LaRoche in a trade, offered to pay $8m of his $13m salary in '16. Bucs declined Ouch.

#CoopWillFixEm

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 12:32 AM) Frazier is at worst a good power bat and a strong defender at a weak position... Plus, getting him allows us to move Lawrie to 2nd where his bat profiles better We had horrible infield production last year and adding Lawrie and Frazier could be adding 45-50 homers to positions we were probably going to get 15-20 from For real. If we magically added Frazier, the defense doesn't suffer and we add a whole lot of power to a power starved lineup. QUOTE (toasty @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 12:35 AM) Acquire another Reds player? Adam Dunn and Adam LaRoche say hello. At least his name isn't Adam, too... LaRoche never played for the Reds.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 12:25 AM) This is pretty much Lawrie's last chance. He's been a huge bust for a No. 1 pick and obviously the A's think he's no good if they wanted to dump him. Hopefully he'll be humble in this, his last real chance, to make it big. His stats, in fact, were lousy with the A's. We shall see. I am a little surprised a lot of you are happy with the trade. At least he's used to AL pitching, but I see him as a fairly lousy hitter.

I'd be fine parting with Adams, Montas, Anderson and Fulmer in that order if they traded for Frazier. Definitely wouldn't want to see more than one go. In a world where the Sox pony up for a Upton/Heyward, ideally something like Montas, Micah, Guerrero and Engel/May could get it done.

I can't root for him, because he had a beer one time and also Hahn gave up too much. But overall, great pickup by the Sox. I like Wendelken and Erwin, but a back-end starter and relief prospect are more than acceptable for an improvement at third. SoxNet breakdown, with some video: http://www.chicagonow.com/soxnet/2015/12/w...e-brett-lawrie/

Fingers crossed for Avi and a pitcher. I just don't want to see Trayce go.

Jesus Christ that haul is massive. Based on this the Sox could legitimately ask for something like Urias, Pederson/Puig and Barnes from the Dodgers for Q. Not Sale, but Q. I love Quintana, but man, this trade + the massive contracts being handed out pretty much make him and Sale astronomically valuable.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 01:51 AM) We're not prying Lawrie away from Oakland with some Beck, Hawkins or Danish as a centerpiece. It's going to involve Montas. I can just see the White Sox thinking of him as a future relief pitcher and selling his value based upon that. Hell, we already hand gifted them Bassitt -- why not another starter!? Hahn does realize there are other teams in baseball, right? Eh, Lawrie doesn't exactly have world beater value. I don't see the Sox giving up any of their top four prospects. And lets wait for the deal to go through before crucifying Hahn.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 06:43 PM) Hate him why? Just curious. Seems like an odd player to hate ya know QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 8, 2015 -> 06:44 PM) Yeah very strange. I've always been a big fan of his. 100% because he went to Olivet Nazarene University. I'm from the area and the students from Olivet carry a hilarious arrogance about them. So it's a sports hate, not a genuine "I despise this guy" hate.