Flash Tizzle

http://www.suntimes.com/output/sports/cst-spt-sox20.html Heres the important part: By the end of 04 we could be short Maggs, Lee, and Frank. If the article has truth to it, I wouldn't be too happy about this development. But if Lee is being used as bait, Maggs will probably stay for next season. Hopefully we will have the money available to offer his ludicrous contract. (it will be and you know it)

This is a great move. Next year when payroll is more flexible we still have El Caballo to build a team around. Don't know what to think about Thomas (if he's still around). If he puts up a great year I wouldnt mind signing him for another year or two. After 500 home runs Thomas can do whatever the hell he wants with another team, but he should hit #500 with us.

If the damn deal for Arod/Manny didn't drag on for so long we could of had a better shot of signing Rhodes. Because of all the uncertaintly surrounding the deal, followed by the NOmar/Maggs proposal, it left the Sox with no clue on how much money we would have left to sign other players. Bean just walked over and picked up Rhodes while we were involved in all this s***.......which still hasn't happened.

Reading that article after browsing through the LA message boards, it would be within Evans best interest not to get involved with the Nomar/Maggs trade. People on that board were furious with the thought of picking up a player (Nomar) in his walk year to give up so many great pitchers. I believe their right.....but if Evans felt his job was in jeopardy he would make the trade regardless of what they think. Those who thought Maggs wasn't expendable under any circumstance I hope you read through the article. Jackson, their top prospect, throws 98 mph and is 20 years old! Mota was superb in the bullpen and Miller is also a quality pitcher. Trust me, you want Maggs traded if it brings this talent. Either get something for Maggs now or risk losing him next year for a draft pick.

Did they destroy that damn ring?

What I meant (even though it didnt come out that way) is that by negotiating for Nomar to come to the Sox....instead of to LA we f***ed over evans; who was looking to trade for him. IF Nomar is traded to us we're stuck with him, and still have two open slots in our starting rotation. Perez could of been acquired from LA along with Mota and stud prospect Greg Miller. Sox would of had a higher likelihood of signing those three beyond 04...unlike Nomar.

WE........are......f***ed. Sox need pitching more then they needed Nomar. If Nomar was traded directly to LA Sox could of recieved Perez, Mota, and Greg Miller. But by KW acting like a f***head and trying to steal Nomar under Evans nose we're stuck with him....and screwed out of a pitcher.

Sure, stick with the losers (Hangar 18 and company) the whole time and then join us during your convenience. Im sure there will be many photos posted up on WSI to tell the story.

Selig probably realizes the implications if this trade didnt go down....the worst being many pissed off fans. (probably Boston more then anywhere else). Here is the latest from the world of roto: Alex Rodriguez-SS-TEX Sources close to the commissioner's office told the Providence Journal that Bud Selig intends to step in today and attempt to broker an agreement with the MLBPA that would allow the A-Rod trade to go through.

The K-Man.....or Ken.

Can anyone imagine Beastly walking into Victorias Secret to get perfume? It would finally give him an excuse to enter without being considered a pervert. Someone should write a sitcom of the life of Beastly....in this episode he'll walk into VS and will start some kind of mischief. Probably will ask one the ladies there to try on a thong and she'll kick him out. Then he spends the rest of the day searching for a substitue gift and ends up giving his GF a Chia pet. She of course dumps him and we will all laugh and say, "Thats our beastly!"

If Jose was sent to Seattle, the deal would look like this: -Nomar is traded to the Sox......Jose for Garcia. -Nomar isn't traded to the Sox........Jose for Guillen.

God no, make LA suffer. Keep Weaver on the West Coast....dudes a f***ing nutcase. I rather make trades for Garcia and Perez. Rotation for 04' Buehrle Loaiza Garland Garcia Perez.

Then again, if Nomar is kept Valentine could still be traded for Garcia....Konerko for Perez....and Reed could play RF. Too many scenarios....

If LA wont give up Molta, Perez, Miller for MAGGS what chance do we have of getting Perez and prospects for Paulie. I agree that Perez for Konerko straight up holds value, but we could get more from the Nomar trade. The Sox also have a higher probablility of filling SS compared to 1B. Their seems to be plans in place to trade Valentine, bump Uribe, and pursue Juan Gone (Acquiring Juan Gone is speculation, but its been reported that Sox management met with his agent). If Nomar is kept on our team, we only save 2.75 million dollars from the Maggs trade. How can we get another 1b (if Konerko is traded) and fill our void in RF with that money?

Rotoworld says Orioles are talking to three free agents: two of which are probably IROD and Vlad. LA can't outbid Orioles so they shouldnt attempt. Let them wallow in their own crapulence, as Mr. Burns would say.

In the three way trade Nomar would of went directly to LA and we would of picked up Mota,Perez,Miller from Boston for Maggs. If Nomar goes to the Sox.....we might force LA to add in another player. Which wouldnt of happened in the original deal. Or Sox could just keep Nomar and force LA to look elsewhere. But that wouldnt make sense because they still need offense and Sox still need pitching. Somewhere down the line we have to trade somebody to LA if we want our projected pitchers. Trading Nomar allows us to purse Guillen from Seattle. At SS, he would still be an upgrade over Valentine...though not to the extent of Nomar.

I agree, but KW isnt making it easier on himself by screwing LA out of directly acquirin Nomar. Its like a slap in the face, though some could argue its just business. LA had to chance to be in the three way deal for Nomar but decided that keeping their pitching was more valuable......now they can sit back and watch Irod and Vlad sign with the 0's.

I don't like this. But if it happens hopefully we'll sign Juan Gone, trade for one or two quality relievers, and get some f***ing starting pitching. Garcia for Valentine is a possibility but we're still one short; unless you believe Shoenweiss deserves a chance as a number5.....which he doesn't.

You're all wrong. Best sports program on the radio is the "Me and Z" show. These guys are fans first then sports broadcasters. They dont care who they offend and don't take crap from dumb callers. I seem to relate more to them then Mac,Jurko,Harry or Silvia/Carmen

Believe I heard 11 Million. My prediction: Maggs and AROD recieve consideration for MVP. Meanwhile Garciaparra re injurs his hand and ends the season batting in the .270s. Odaliz Perez reengergizes his career with 18 wins while Mota posts solid numbers again in relief.

What kind of idiot says this is the last place he wanted to go? Its too bad that he is getting shunned by Boston, but its the nature of the business. Nomar had his chance to sign an extension and turned it down. If he goes here then he should just play the game and shut his mouth. You bad mouth our team and the fans (that show up) will give you hell.

If the trade doesnt occur then we go back to working LA. If they remain b****es and dont give up anything then we should keep Maggs. No need to trade him and get nothing in return.

I have faith in Danny Wright out of the bullpen. The game which changed my mind had to be the infamous Cottsgate in NY. He did a good job providing long relief and limiting the damage. Another game (which I can't recall the team) Danny pitched for seven innings and recieved a save. Keep him and Cotts......deal Borchard and Rauch if you have to.

EXACTLY. What is the point of bringing him to Chicago first unless: 1. We plan on keeping him..... which is a bad idea because he will remain with the Sox only one year then likely move on. And as you guys have mentioned he's not thrilled about coming here. He does put up good offensive number but isn't exactly the finishing piece to our puzzle. Let the Sox fill the pitching needs first then work on other positions. 2. Sox are getting Nomar first only to force LA into recieving an extra player; possibly Konerko. If Evans doesnt fall for this then we keep Nomar and effectively dont recieve any pitching talent because KW tried to be a smart ass.