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Again, I don't personally think that offseason would be disappointing. But we both know some here would. Not sure why that is what you're choosing to focus on in the post.

Gotcha, makes sense. Just looking at it slightly differently.

Hahn likes to made trades. RF is the natural place for a trade. I expect that is where we'll get our RF.

There just aren't many options. Which is why I keep going back to a trade. Nimmo would be my #1 choice, but guys like Ramiel Tapia, David Dahl, Gregory Polonco and Nomar Mazara could also be answers,

I'd love to hear your other solutions of RF that bat left handed and aren't a liability on defense. I'll save you some time - none of them are sexy. We're working with Dickerson, Gardner, Kole Calhoun and Alex Gordon. Gardner may be the best overall player of the bunch. Assuming a 1 year deal, I don't think he'd be a bad addition if other legitimate signings are made. I too would prefer someone else, but it would need to come via trade.

We're at ~$45M assuming Sanchez is non-tendered. Unless you think Abreu is getting $25M per (I don't), its not $70M with Abreu. Probably more like $62-64M range. Not a HUGE difference, but every dollar counts I guess.

I prefer Grandal to Martinez for a few reasons. 1. Sox really need lefty bats. I also worry that the Sox would overplay Martinez in the OF. 2. 1B/DH gets super crowded with Martinez and Abreu. I suspect JDM would get at minimum a 3 year deal, likely more, and with the Sox apparently planning to keep Abreu around for at least a few more seasons, it gets difficult to find Vaughn at bats . I do think Vaughn will be ready by 2021 at the latest, so I am not exactly in a hurry to block him. 3. I suspect the McCann we saw in the 2nd half is the McCann we'll get in 2020. He's still a solid major leaguer, but we need to not overexpose him. A three-headed catcher DH combo of Grandal/Collins/McCann makes a ton of sense. Grandal can also play 1B and put Abreu at DH at times. 4. I don't think the Sox are going to relegate Collins to a backup catcher at this point in his career. They're going to want to DH him at least a couple times a week against RHP, and that is tough to do regularly without a third catcher on the roster. All that said, I wouldn't be against JDM + Grandal instead of Abreu + Grandal, but I doubt we see that happen.

OD Lineup: Garcia CF, Moncada 3B, Abreu 1B, Eloy LF, Grandal DH, Anderson SS, Gardner/Dickerson RF, McCann C, Yolmer/Mendick 2B BN: Yolmer/Mendick, Collins, Engel Rotation: Gioltio, Wheeler, Cease, Lopez and Hill/Wood Lineup by mid April: Robert CF, Moncada 3B, Abreu 1B, Eloy LF, Grandal DH, Anderson SS, Gardner/Dickerson RF, Madrigal 2B, McCann C BN: Leury, Yolmer/Mendick, Collins and Engel Rotation: Giolito, Wheeler, Kopech, Cease, Lopez/Hill/Wood NOT TOO SHABBY!

I mean...I said it it would be a fantastic offseason in post. Some would definitely be disappointed we didn't get Cole/Stras/Rendon/JDM, but I too think it would put a pretty good team on the field in 2020.

Wheeler + Grandal + Abreu + Gardner/Dickerson + Hill/Wood would be pretty fantastic offseason - albeit perhaps slightly disappointing nobody super premium - but I think it should be pretty realistic and takes nothing away from the farm. Add a solid veteran reliever as well and go to battle. Payroll would be around $125M for 2020, and leaves RF open for the OF prospects to develop for 2021, or for a FA splash in 2021 that better fits what the Sox need.

5/$140 for Strasburg seems like a serious bargain.

Why?

Zero percent chance Marshall is non tendered. I would non tender Osich for sure. Yolmer I actually think signs a cheap 2 year deal around $7M to stay. Goins is probably gone.

Assuming Abreu is in this mix, I think I would be pretty pleased with this offseason. Would prefer trading for LH RF better than Calhoun, but that would be my only true gripe.

The Twins have 1 major league SP under control next season. they have a LOT of work to do this offseason.

Yah, definitely not a perfect solution. Frankly there aren’t many.

Maybe if we sign say Ozuna in RF and Strasburg as a SP, a cheaper DH alternative like Moustakas who can also be deployed around the IF wouldn't be a terrible option.

Yah, definitely like Moose as a fit depending on what direction we go in RF.

Assuming the contract of an average player making ~$85M over the next 4 seasons isn't exactly a wise use of the White Sox resources and financial flexibility.

Yah, I don't know. Sox are extremely right handed. Lineup balance is important. Obviously I'd rather get JD Martinez and Marcell Ozuna over Dickerson and Calhoun, but all things being equal, Sox really need another strong LH bat to complement all the righties. Another reason why Grandal would be a great fit.

Eaton won't be a FA. And yes. The options suck. I vote for a trade, but I guess one of Calhoun/Gardner/Dickerson/Gordon on a 1 year deal wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if legitimate money is invested in a DH, a top of rotation SP and another decent backend SP.

All the righties! JD would be fine if Abreu takes the QO or signs at max a 2 year deal. A lefty RF becomes an absolute must in that scenario tho.

I too would love Ryu. He won't give you 200 innings, but he is super good when he is out there. I think the expectation is that he is going to stay in LA, or at the very least the west coast. But he would be a fantastic get, and at his age, and little shorter commitment. Something like 3/60 could probably get it done, maybe even a tad less.

I bet he would if it paid him the most money. But ya, Rendon is a 3B and the comment I made was mostly in jest as I literally said in the post he’s not signing with the Sox.

Grandal + Wheeler would be a fantastic start. Trade for Nimmo and sign a backend lefty option and I would be tickled with that offseason.