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QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 01:09 PM) Gut reaction is an asset like Q should never be traded to the Cubs, especially without them paying WELL over market value. Not sure how I feel about the return yet, want to do a deeper dig on the prospects before coming to a conclusion there. Who cares about the Cubs? We just got the best OF prospect in the game, plus another guy with TOR potential.

I got Robo next to go.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 09:59 AM) Despite our discussions about trading him, I can't recall a single trade rumor that centered around Nate Jones. There were several rumors out there that he was of interest to many teams, but never really saw names thrown around.

2020. They should tank hard the rest of 17 and 18. Try to be respectable by 2019. By 2020, we need to be good.

Q - you're the f***ing man. Will miss you dearly.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 11:56 AM) These trades aren't even over yet! Sure we're not getting another Moncada or Jimenez, but we'll get real value for Robertson, Swarzak, and others. Perhaps not quite top 25 talent, but if the Sox decide to move Abreu, they'll get a really nice return. The Yankees should most definitely be interested. At this point, I say f*** it - trade him. Tank hard the rest of 17 and 18, and be ready to put a respectable product on the field in 2019. Not really sure what Abreu accomplishes on this team at this point.

QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 11:26 AM) FWIW, Cubs Reddit loves this. They say they got what they need and they're probably right. One guy was elated that they didn't need to use Schwarber, Happ or Baez. I would have been disappointed to see either of the top two switched out for any of those three. I wouldn't have hated Happ over Cease, just because we need as many bats as we can get, but I am not at all disappointed.

f*** it, lets go all in. Trade Abreu.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 10:57 AM) Don't stop get it get it I take it you didn't think we'd be getting Eloy?

Where was Cease?

Hahn, you are the f***ing man. Played the league like a fiddle. Waiting was the correct thing to do. Give me Eloy over Tucker all day long.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 09:14 AM) Any position players ahead of Moncada? Sorry I don't have insider I don't have Insider either, but there most definitely are. Law isn't as big on Moncada as most "talent evaluators".

This really hit a screeching halt.

Should have traded him last winter. The market appeared to have been there. Damn shame.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 08:40 AM) It's funny to see how Cubs fans value Schwarber and how all other fanbase value him now. People on northsidebaseball.com were pissed at the thought of the Babe for Michael Fulmer. Where as every other fanbase thought it was a joke of an offer. I personally think he's overrated in Cubsdom, but will still be a very nice DH at some point. Certainly not a headliner for Q anymore though. Thing is, nice DHs aren't very hard to find, and they aren't that expensive. That is a roster spot you if fill via FA when you're ready, not waste a precious asset like Q on. I'd be fine with Schwarber as a part of a Q deal, but only in a something that also includes Eloy. Which I doubt is going to happen.

QUOTE (Enscheff @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 05:09 PM) If I had to guess, I would imagine Coppy has offered 2 pitchers not named Wright (and probably not both Allard and Soroka), plus Pache, plus 1-2 other fungible assets. Hahn has that offer in his back pocket, and if the Yanks, Astros, Brewers, Rockies, or maybe even the Cubs, give in and include an elite position prospect, Hahn jumps. That deal ain't gonna get it done. Sox can do much better than Pache as the best bat, and Sox already have probably the best stable of pitching prospects in baseball.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 04:59 PM) I don't think years of control matter that much for relievers due to their inherent fickle nature. In fact in many cases they're probably more of a deterrent than a bonus, which I think happened with Robertson this past winter. But should be less of an issues with prearb and arb guys. A guy like Kahnle isn't going to be devalued because of his control, but it also is not a guaranteed contract.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 04:20 PM) You initially said that some of those packages are exciting. I think they're all exciting and that's why the sentiment is that none of the other teams would accept them. No, that is not what I said. I said not all of that are that exciting.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 04:06 PM) Well, that certainly clarifies things! What don't you understand? If Rabbit thinks all of those packages would be unacceptable to the other team, that is a bit disconcerting. Frazier, Andujar and Fowler is about the minimum I would take. Braves package is obviously nice, but I'd prefer more than just Acuna on the offensive side. Brinson + Dubon + Phillips seems light. I'd much prefer Diaz to Dubon. Rodgers + McMahon package seems like a good starting point. Maybe add a lower level bat instead of Lambert. Just seems if Rabbit thinks those packages are far too much that the Yanks, Braves, Brewers and Rockies won't reject the outright, we're all going to be very very very disappointed.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 04:02 PM) I do not understand. Cool.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 03:43 PM) None of those teams would make those deals. That isn't very good news. Some of the deals aren't that exciting.

To further the discussion, who do we think will be the starting 5 once Q and Holland are moved? I assume Shields, Gonzo and Pelfrey are staying put. Rodon, Shields, Gonzo, Pelfrey and Covey? With Lopez waiting in the wings if they find any takers on Gonzo, Shields, or Pelfrey in August.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 02:39 PM) whitesoxdave‏ @barstoolWSD Haven't heard anything at all today buttttt apparently Cease was just scratch from his start tonight Yawn.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 01:37 PM) Hard to say. Contenders are always looking for bullpen help at the deadline, and Swarzak is having a career year. Could be an attractive rental piece for sure. Probably a B prospect that is further away from the majors or a guy that doesn't have a ton of upside but is blocked. Could be interesting enough. Hoping for someone that will slot in the 10-15 range in the Sox top prospects.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 12, 2017 -> 01:51 PM) I am trying to get some work done today since I got nothing done yesterday. I have no reason to believe anything I said yesterday has changed. There are multiple teams involved and Sox are expecting to get to the final stages of offers sooner than later. Charlotte has three days off so it's hard to say. I'd imagine they line up anyone other than Volstad for Sunday. Could see a rationale for calling up any of Danish/Giolito/Lopez/Fulmer. Frankly I'd like to see them pull up Fulmer. Whys that? Just throw him in the fire?