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QUOTE (FT35 @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 03:45 PM) I think he's absolutely capable of being one of the more prolific power hitters this side of the steroid era...unless we find out he's juiced. 500+ft HR's don't just happen (unless you're Joe Borchard), let alone with regularity, and he mashed in the minors before coming up. It's the average that seems quite inflated to me. He didn't mash in the minors anything like he's mashed to this point in the majors.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 04:15 PM) 1. Are you that high on Corey Ray? 2. Rogers has been on DL, but he played well in Futures Game. I imagine he is still ahead of McMahon in prospect pecking order. Yah, a McMahon headlined deal would be pretty underwhelming. Dude is going to a be a 1B. I like the idea of acquring him (we do share a last name, so that's kinda cool), but I'd be pretty disappointed to see McMahon + filler as the return for Q. But the Rockies do have a bunch of interesting guys. Rockies probably won't trade Rodgers. I would love to see the Sox buy low on Dahl, but they probably want someone with more control, and Rox probably don't want to see low. Something like Tapia + McMahon + Pint is probably realistic, though I'd love to get more. Jordan Patterson is another interesting name further down their list.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 03:59 PM) http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs...dule-strengths/ We're projected to have the hardest schedule in the MLB in the second half. Fangraphs projects us at a .380 winning percentage the rest of the way, and that's with all of our trade assets still on the team. It's going to be ugly. Hmm. A little surprised to see this since we've already played 13 more games on the road than at home.

QUOTE (pablo @ Jul 11, 2017 -> 03:28 PM) Count me in the "Judge will not hit MLB pitching" club as well. But I am glad to see the kid doing well - he's very easy to root for. My own opinion, but I would bet the Yankees would have dealt him for Sale or Q in the offseason. I'd assume Sox were asking about Sanchez, Torres, Frazier and Cashman wanted to start further down his prospect list like Mateo or Judge. He rhad a rough go at it last year, and the Yankees were really considering starting him in the minors this season but injuries forced him on the ML roster to start the year. So they didn't seem to be sold on him either. Oh well... Judge is a great story, but at some point he's gonna cool off. I kind of doubt he suddenly turned into one of the more prolific power hitters on this side of the steroid era.

It's a damn shame. Have to imagine he had a decent market last offseason. Could have been a real trade asset.

QUOTE (zisk @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 05:12 PM) Just for laughs, who do the Yankees want or need most. Jose Quintana or Jose Abreu? Probably Q, but there really is no time like the present to trade Abreu. I know he wouldn't be a bad guy to have around for Moncada, but if Hahn can cash in, he should definitely be moved.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 04:39 PM) I like the proposed Yankee deal in the OP. Looks balanced for both sides. Funny thing is, despite already having talent such as Giolito/Lopez/Fulmer at Charlotte, if the Sox added Adams I think he becomes the #1 for first call up from that group of pitchers. Adams seems to have been flying low on most people's radars but man, the kid looks damn good. Ehh. Pretty sure Lopez will be up before Q is traded.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 02:41 PM) I agree with Brian here but only because people have unrealistic expectations. I know that baseball teams aren't sitting around looking at publication top prospect lists to make deals. However, when looking at a prospective deal, I think a top 30ish prospect, another back end top 100, an org top 10, and an upside flyer is realistic for Quintana. He's not Chris Sale. He'll bring back a lot though. After reading Heyman's piece today, it seems like Hahn is playing this thing perfectly. It's the same script as Jake Peavy and Chris Sale beforehand. They are asking for the sun and the moon and ultimately will accept "the sun". By asking the Yanks for Torres (Hahn likely knows this isn't happening) and Clint Frazier (Possible real #1 target) he's setting an unrealistic bar. Hopefully, Cashman agrees to Frazier and then you work in 2 guys instead of a monster package and so on. Something like Frazier, Adams, Florial, and Abreu would be a good deal for Sox but I do believe the fan base would be underwhelmed. I could see something like Corey Ray, Brandon Woodruff and Isan Diaz as well. I think that would be looked at as a "poor deal" but in reality it might be the best that they can do. Yanks deal is solid, but that Brewers deal - you may as well keep Q. You can get that deal (not same players, obviously) when Q has far less control.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 02:41 PM) Not bad, but why pitchers? Sox seem to have a lot of pitching prospects if you include Rodon and Fulmer and Rodon has been doing better of late and looks nasty at times. I'd prefer a return of catchers, outfielders and shortstops. We could always move Anderson to third or second if we get some amazing shortstop. Why not all position players in return, especially an elite catcher? I wonder why you include pitching in the return? I agree with almost nothing you say, but definitely agree here. Sox need to add as many positional player prospects as they can. Maybe a nice LHP prospect or two. The rest need to be bats.

QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 10:46 AM) That is phenomenal news for Micker! I still have a feeling that Tatis wouldn't even be mentioned around here if not for that trade. He could be raking in the minors for the Sox and people here wouid be going "yeah, he looks interesting but his BABIP is too high and he strikes out too much." Yep. Far fewer here would know his name than they do now.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 10:03 AM) I hope to god that isn't the case. Kopech should be given every opportunity to start. He will be. We have plenty of back end of the pen options. Kopech won't be one until he proves he cannot start.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 09:57 AM) I don't know, seems quite the opposite with Tatis. He's going to be on nearly every top 100 list as an 18 year old SS but people are determined to believe he will suck because the trade hurts too much. But, it is what it is. Not Tatis' fault he was traded. I am not at all determined to believe he will suck. It was an awful trade. But I'm not ready to crown Tatis a HOF quite yet. Most top 100 prospects flame out. Chances are, Tatis will as well. And if he is lucky enough to become a ML regular, its far more likely he is an average one than a HOF.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 10, 2017 -> 09:05 AM) The Shields/Tatis Jr. move was pretty much the death knell for retooling/competing transactions. While Tatis would be no doubt be another nice guy to have in the Sox system, let's wait until he does something above high A ball before we get too carried away. I think it was SS2K pointed out that his numbers are nearly identical to Micker Adolfo.

I think you gotta trade him. But only if you get something worth trading him for. If something like Ortiz, Diaz and Phillips from the Brewers if the best offer you can get, and I'd just say screw it and keep him until someone bowls you over.

QUOTE (Jimmy3Putt @ Jul 8, 2017 -> 08:24 AM) I think the purpose for Robert to stay in the DR was to save HIM in taxes not the Sox. Next year his bonus isn't taxable income just his yearly salary, so he can come over. This. It may even be why the Sox got him.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 04:36 PM) The Atlanta GM is smarter than you think he is. At some point the Braves need to acquire veteran pitching. Maybe a tad early, but with Qs control, the move makes sense to get an TOR arm through 2020. They can afford to give up talent for a guy like Q.

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 03:11 PM) People tend to propose massive depth packages to compensate for a lack of a big headliner or "untouchable" (as an aside, I think that term is waaay overused, especially when it comes for non-rentals like Quintana). I think the opposite is more likely — that a team will include a big shot headliner prospect and then skimp on the second and third pieces. That way, the team really only loses one significant piece (although it's a big one), and their system isn't gutted. Agreed. As mentioned, I wasn't really proposing that package. Just stating it could get done without Brinson.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 02:54 PM) The Brewers are not trading their entire farm system to us like that. The White Sox would be crazy to not accept Ray + Diaz + Clark + Hader + Ortiz due to the sheer volume alone. I do not love Ray as a headliner, but if needed I would need the rest of the package to be strong. Ray + Ortiz + Phillips + Burnes would have me thinking for sure I totally agree with your first sentence. I was mainly just spitballing that they could get it done without Brinson. I'd be pretty lukewam on a Ray + Ortiz + Phillips package. Burns does next to nothing for me. If were taking lottery tickets, at this point it should be guys that have a chance to impact the game everyday in the field.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 02:19 PM) I don't know that a deal gets done without Brinson unless they want to send us like 5 guys. Exactly. Ray, Diaz, Clark, Hader and Ortiz probably does it. But that is literally 2-6.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 12:25 PM) I think the new ranking of 45 for Robert is about right. Traditionally guys aren't ranked in the upper echelon without showing success in pro ball. Robert may skyrocket through the list once we get a better look at him in A ball next year. Agreed. No qualms about 45. Thought not in top 100 was strange.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 11:39 AM) Robertson + Kahnle should bring back more than Soto and a catching prospect who can't hit, especially when the Nationals are desperate. I'd insist on significantly more, and start the ask with Robles. Agreed. That was my biggest beef with those trades. Robo + Kahnle should get a haul. Soto + Kieboom ++ Tho, don't see anyway the Red Sox and Yanks would make those proposed deals.

He pitched last night. 4.1 IP. 7 Hits, 3 R/ER. 1 K. 72 pitches

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 09:56 AM) Especially since they also have some nice IF guys in Isan Diaz and Lucas Erceg that would look really good in our system. I admittedly know next to nothing about Erceg, but he looks like the type of guy we've been trying to get away from. Low OBP and allergic to the walk. Much prefer Isan Diaz as the IF piece.

QUOTE (RegionSox @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 09:55 AM) They edited the list to add in Luis Robert at 45 Lol, that is funny. But you are absolutely correct. And then bumped Tatis to 101...haha.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 7, 2017 -> 09:49 AM) Burger, Dunning, Hansen, and Robert all has a chance to crack the top 100 by year end. Sort of shocked to see no Robert on either of this last 2 lists, especially the top 100. I think people just don't know here to put him.