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QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 11:29 PM) http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2016?list=cws It is just our top 30 prospects, not a team by team ranking. Yah, I've seen that.

Anyone seen updated prospect rankings per team since the trades ? Curious to see where the White Sox are ranked now .

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 08:46 PM) After the Puig Mania you put us through, you're not allowed to be skeptical of Cuban players. I'm still traumatized by it and I never made it through a quarter of your posts. Does anyone actually read his generally wildly off topic ramblings?

I don't think RH is about to give Q and Jose away... Q especially is going to be very expensive.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 07:12 PM) I would think Rodgers is an untouchable for the Rockies. Perhaps, but we thought Moncada and Lopez were untouchable. Plus Rodgers is blocked for the time being. Rox infield is stacked.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:11 PM) Two of the top 10 RHP prospects in baseball isn't bad. Not sure what Dunning is going to be, back end guy or in the pen, but good pick up. It appears the strategy is to focus on guys that are fairly developed and take a lot of the projection out of the hands of the scouting department. It probably cost a bit in terms of quantity, but a lot less risk in a deal like this than one that includes guys a long ways from their ceilings. 3 of top 8 including Kopech.

A little bumemd we couldn't get Robles, or at least a few bats at the backend of hte deal like Kieboom and Severino, but i am cool with it. Lopez and Giolito both have TOR potential.

If no Robles or Turner (obvious), I think we need both Giolito and Lopez, or one of those 2 and about 4-5 others.

QUOTE (Sockin @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:41 PM) No Robles. Ken Rosenthal ‏ Sources: #Nationals close to acquiring Eaton from #WhiteSox. Robles not in deal. Hm, curious to see what it looks like then.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:32 PM) I sniff a Robles + Fedde + Severino deal for Eaton That doesn't get me that excited. I want Robles + Giolito/Lopez.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:29 PM) rockies have to be completely out of this now right? I am sure they have interest in Q.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) What about something like Abreu + Putnam for David Dahl swap with the Rockies? Gets them a natural 1B, allows Desmond to move to LF, and gets them the bullpen help they are seeking. I'd love to get our hand on David Dahl.

Wow...my favorite two Sox gone in 26 hours. Hopefully Robles and Giolito or Lopez is in the deal.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:10 PM) They're not being packaged to the Nats because Turner would have to headline the deal. Don't let Metallica man see this post!

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 02:41 PM) A reasonable proposal or a proposal that is purposefully light because it's coming from just one org? Quintana - #2 Robles/#4 Fedde/#8 Stevenson/#14 Severino Eaton - #3 Lopez/#7 Neuse/#11 Banks/#30 Reetz This leaves then with their #1, 5, 6, 9 & 10 guys still intact. Does it hurt them? Yes. Are they much better now? Yes. And guess what? If they lose Harper in two years, they can move Q and Eaton then to restock much of that system. That deal for Eaton is garbage. Don't like the deal for Q either.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 01:18 PM) As much as we all want Turner it's not going to happen. Maybe a Gioloto, Robles, Lopez, Servino, Difo, Freede. I can also see us getting back other MLB guys along with Gioloto, Robles, and Lopez such as Ross or Taylor or something along those lines. But there aren't going to give up Turner it just isn't going to happen. Ya, I think we all know that. Just spitballing at this point

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 01:13 PM) If you want 3 top 50 prospects and 7 other players, you didn't learn much yesterday. Yah, well, still a bit surprised that the backend of that deal wasn't stronger, but this is two players versus one. 4+4=8. I think Ross, Giolito, Robles, Lopez, Kieboom, Severino and maybe 1 or 2 others isn't crazy for two guys like Eaton and Q with 9 years of combined control for crazy AAVs.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 01:12 PM) At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I hate hate hate the prospect of Giolito being a large part of any return. As the Fangraphs article stated, he was downright awful in the big leagues and had issues getting strikeouts in the high minors too. Well, I mean, if they're getting Q and Eaton, I definitely want Giolito involved. There would be at minimum 6-7 players coming back to the Sox. I doubt they'll trade Turner, so you clean out their system.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 01:08 PM) Would have to have either Turner or their entire farm system right? Not sure how this deal is possible without Turner, Giolito and Robles. Otherwise I want Ross, Giolito, Robles, Lopez and my pick of 5-6 other prospects.

QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 01:07 PM) George Ofman ‏@georgeofman 4m4 minutes ago Sox and Nats talking Quintana/Eaton package. Let's we where this goes. Not sure how this deal is possible without Turner, Giolito and Robles. Otherwise I want Ross, Giolito, Robles, Lopez and my pick of 5-6 other prospects.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 11:49 AM) Crazy thing is how the SS have such great hit tools vs. OF that are a lot more raw hit tools now. Basically if you are athletic people are pushing you to SS. I bet it used to be CF. I think it is moreso that so many of these guys have been the best player on their team their entire life. Generally, if you're RH, and you're the best player on your team, you're at SS if you're not on the mound. So most guys have SS backgrounds, and then generally get moved off of it as they go to college and then the pros.

How about we go with a group of scrubs for this season? Shields, Avi, Liriano, and Gonzales would be cute.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 11:30 AM) Each raise sucks up surplus value, and reduces the return on any potential deal. We're talking minimal raises here, and plus, the value of the minimal raises is probably absorbed by the fact that any acquiring team could non-tender Jose if he were to suffer a horrific injury. It's basically a one year deal a $12M, with two options between $12-16M. That is pretty valuable in today's landscape, IMO. His defense would have to be a concern for an NL team, though, I must admit.

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 11:28 AM) I don't know if it's wise, but reports are that they signed him largely to play 1B. As of now. They could easily move Blackmon or Dahl for pitching. Dahl, Tapia and Murphy would be a real nice foundation for a Q and Robertson deal. They also would still have interest in Frazier and Abreu under this scenario.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 11:09 AM) And he still has the specter of a huge arbitration raise looming. You keep saying this. Jose isn't going to get some giant raise this year. It is likely he will make roughly $12M, which is a very modest raise on what he made last season. Sure, if he comes out and has a monster 2017, that may go to $15M or so the following year, but 2 years of control of a masher at ~$15-16M AAV is not crazy. You're putting way too much emphasis on this, IMO.