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Moncada, Kopech....and WHO ELSE!?!?! Please tell me Devers, please tell me Devers. Please tell me devers.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 12:12 PM) HES DEALT SALE TO RED SOX FOR MONCADA KOPECH AND TWO PROSPECTS Huh?

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 12:11 PM) Good god, I want to have access to Twitter right now. I'm relying on y'all to keep me informed. Please keep posting any relevant tweets. Thank you. Touche.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 12:09 PM) I'd hope so, but it kind of makes me think if Boston is only in the deal because we've lowered the demand. Any trade that you have to say, "well maybe they will flip player x to insert team" makes it a bad one. All trades should be judged on their own merit I mean JBJ is a great player, and an JBJ/Eaton anchored OF is tremendous defensively. I jsut don't like the 4 years of control if the Sox plan to trade more than just Sale.

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 12:05 PM) Going back to the Shelby Miller deal as a template (except for a real ace in Sale), JBJ could certainly fill Inciarte role, with Moncada filling the Swanson role. So it may not be crazy to get both. Maybe you net one more top 100 prospect (e.g., the Aaron Blair role), but probably not much more than that. To be fair, everyone has said Sox are looking at Shelby Miller trade ++ as template.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 12:02 PM) So if you got JBJ, Moncada, and Swihart is that fair value for Sale? We also have the luxury of adding Abreu, or Jones, or Robertson to get some other pieces back (Devers, Kopech, Groome, Rodriquez). I'd be very, very, very lukewarm to that package. Moncada is exciting, but I almost like Giolito, Robles ++ more than that. Idunno... I think sox are smarter than getting JBJ unless they have something else up their sleeve (flipping him to Nats).

QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 12:01 PM) Hahn has said he knows we could be terrible for a few years if we rebuild and that's part of the price for a bright future. I'm not convinced they won't try to "win" next year until the team is torn down, however. Then JBJ makes no sense as the headliner.

QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:56 AM) True. I hadn't thought of it this way. But if the Sox "love" JBJ why would they go and flip him? Because best case scenario Sox are good again in 2019 and JBJ has 2 years left at that point. To me, getting JBJ means the Sox will still try to patch together a decent team in 17/18, which I guess deep down I am OK with. I know most here arent, however.

QUOTE (South Sider @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:51 AM) Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman 52s52 seconds ago Chisox asked for benintendi, as everyone has (bos wants to keep). Chisox likes Jackie bradley Jr. Very much, and others Ugh. Although I suppose Sox could turn around and trade JBJ and Q to Nats for an absolute haul.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:44 AM) Three way trade stolen from poster jonathanrod on SSS that I like a lot and is probably unrealistic from Rockies (but they are the PERFECT team to stretch out for a run) Rockies get: Abreu Giolito White sox get: Robles Rodgers Ramel Tapia Erik Feede Carter Kieboom Nick Banks Forrest Wall Kyle Freeland Nats get: Robertson Sale I don't like that for the Sox at all.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:37 AM) Let's say Washington hypothetically got Rutherford from the Yankees and included him in a Sale package. What would you guys say to this? Sale for Giolito, Robles, Rutherford, Stevenson, Severino, and Fedde. Probably, but keep Stevenson and Feede and give me Lopez and higher upside but further away bat. Someone like Soto.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:21 AM) If that guy from the Red Sox forum is right about Moncada/Kopech/Basabe, I think I'd still do the Nats deal with Giolito/Robles + If Red Sox kick in Devers+ then I'd be all for it. Or do that for Q.

QUOTE (South Sider @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:16 AM) Mark Zuckerman ‏@MarkZuckerman 6m6 minutes ago Sense here this morning is #WhiteSox are comfortable dragging out Sale talks, want to see if any other clubs can top #Nats offer. Yup. Good.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:14 AM) Sox likely won't get both Moncada & Devers according to Rosenthal yesterday on the MLB Network. Would imagine a package for sale based around this rumor would be something like Moncada, Kopech, Basabe, Swihart & either a low level bat or pitcher, which frankly seems somewhat light. I liked Travis but that's gone now. If it's me, I make the deal with Nats for Sale & turn Q into something similar I posted about. Sam Travis was not traded. Travis Shaw was. We need two headliners. One of Benintendi/Moncada, and Devers. Then three of Kopech, Basabe, Swihart, Rodriguez, and Groome.

I need Devers and ERod as well.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 09:41 AM) Really like Basabe. Tore up Carolina league as a 20 year old. In 22 at bats.....

Can someone fix the thread title? The dudes last name is Giolito. 1 L.

QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 11:28 PM) Holy s***. A post-TJS pitcher who sucked out loud in his MLB debut, and a sub .800 OPS in A+ bat is the centerpiece of a supposed "franchise altering return?" After seeing what Shelby f***ing Miller cost, the domestic abuser Chapman cost, and what Andrew Miller cost, this proposed deal is a f***ing insult to SOX fans. You've got to be f***ing kidding me. Unless there are significant additions to this deal, we should be disgusted as fans. Dude, it is 2 of the top 10 prospects in the game. If it's just those two, I'd be very disappointed, but it's not going to be. Calm yourself.

QUOTE (b-Rye @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 09:54 PM) A 16th pick from 2012 and a foreign amateur free agent for a 3 years of sale is a massive fail. Strange way to analyze the deal

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 09:35 PM) Bowden: The White Sox and Nationals are far down the road on a trade that will send Chris Sale to the Nationals in exchange for Lucas Giolito, Victor Robles and a low minor leaguer. Reynaldo Lopez and Koda Glover will not be in the proposed deal. The structure of the deal was first reported by Ken Rosenthal. Gross if that's the whole deal.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 08:44 PM) Were? So what happened, legit question I dont follow minor leagues that much. Bregman, Turner and Benintendi had great ML debuts. Giolito struggled in his, and Robles was in A ball.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 08:33 PM) Kieboom and Dunning please. Honest question: what excites you about those 2?

QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 07:00 PM) Let's be realistic, IF they move Q (we've heard they'll hold onto him) it's going to be after Sale gets traded when they pull Q out of their pocket and show teams "look what else we got". Yep, totally agree.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 06:53 PM) No one is offering what you're looking for for Sale, we've heard absolutely nothing on our other pieces, who are we trading that is kick starting this rebuild? Have you heard anyone talk about Robertson? Frazier? Melky? Abreu? f***, I haven't even heard a peep on Q. That's cause Q is worth as much as Sale to the Sox. If they can't get fair value for Sale, they're not getting it for Q either.

Agreed if the packages never materialize. Don't even need EE IMO. Gomez or Revere and Castillo should be enough to keep the team interesting and doesn't take the ability to sell off pieces in July like signing EE would. I do think someone will blink on Sale eventually tho.