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You can in the sense that they were held hitless by a rookie pitcher making his big league debut. Who wasn't lightening up the minor leagues.

The book is about the 1990o Sox team and the new stadium/issues with its construction. Have some sidebar chapters on things like SportsVision, Hawk's year as GM and how all that factored into the situation the Sox found themselves in, in the late 1980's.

Smart people ignore anything Levine writes or says.

That was part of it. I've written a detailed history of SportsVision for Dr. Fletcher's (Chili Dog MVP) next book which comes out next summer. The other factors were historical in nature and technological from a broadcast standpoint. Spoke with some of the folks who worked there.

This and that: If past is prologue Olson will wheel and deal and for that matter Marisnick will have a big night. To answer your last question 20 wins would do it for me (and that's not happening...not with their schedule)

But act like they know more than anyone else!

June 2, 1959 – Down through the seasons when the White Sox played the Orioles strange and bizarre things seemed to take place. For the most part those instances took place in Baltimore but on this night, Comiskey Park played host to one that fans attending never forgot. Future Sox pitcher Hoyt Wilhelm was on the mound for the O’s in the first inning when a swarm of gnats descended on to the pitching mound area. It was so bad he couldn’t see the plate and the game was halted as trainers, the grounds crew, even umpires tried to get rid of the bugs. Finally after 16 minutes Sox owner Bill Veeck, ordered the fireworks crew in from the center field bullpen to set up a launch site. One explosion later the gnats were gone and the game resumed. Wilhelm and Baltimore would win it 3-2. June 2, 1967 - The Sox traded infielder Jerry Adair to Boston for two players, one of whom was pitcher Don McMahon. McMahon would be spectacular out of the bullpen going 5-0, grabbing three saves and having an ERA of 1.67 in 51 games in a little over 91 innings for the “Near Miss” White Sox. June 2, 1995 - With the Sox having blown four straight games to the Indians, and off to an 11-20 start, manager Gene Lamont was fired and replaced by abrasive, taciturn third base coach Terry Bevington. Bevington would turn out to be a disaster on the field and in the clubhouse and the long-term effects of the way Lamont was dismissed would cause his mentor and former Sox coach Jim Leyland to turn down overtures by owner Jerry Reinsdorf to take over after Bevington was removed before the start of the 1998 season. He’d be replaced by first time manager Jerry Manuel.

JR wasn't around in 1967 when Art Allyn took them off WGN after that season to take them to the new WFLD-TV. It was Eddie Einhorn who was the driving force behind SportsVision.

Since we are talking about the media: https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/6/1/23745681/jerry-reinsdorf-stadium-network-blackhawks-bulls-white-sox-tv-broadcasts-nbc-sports-chicago

To be fair he rebuilt the Expos farm system into one of the best in baseball and he did OK with the restrictions with the Marlins too.

June 1, 1914 - Talk about an impressive beginning to a baseball career. Future Sox Hall of Famer Urban “Red” Faber started for the first time in the big leagues, on this day, in Detroit. He’d go 12 and a third innings before losing 2-1. He gave up 11 hits and walked seven Tigers yet wiggled himself out of most jams. He didn’t give up his first run until the 11th inning. June 1, 1937 - Sox pitcher Bill “Bullfrog” Dietrich hurled a no-hitter at the expense of the St. Louis Browns. He won the game, played in Comiskey Park, 8-0. The game took less than two hours to play. Dietrich got run support from both Mike Kreevich and Fred “Dixie” Walker who each knocked in three runs on the afternoon. Dietrich walked two and struck out five. First baseman Henry “Zeke” Bonura saved the no-hitter with two leaping catches of line drives hit by the Browns during the game. June 1, 1985 - Carlton Fisk slammed his fifth home run in four games when he hit a two-run shot off the Royals Bret Saberhagen in a game the Sox won 8-7. Fisk drove in 12 runs in that stretch and served notice that 1985 was going to be his best year in a Chicago uniform. He’d finish the year with 37 homers and 107 RBI’s, both career highs. He also was named to the All-Star team that year for the third time in a White Sox uniform. June 1, 2016 – It had been 50 years since a White Sox pitcher had this happen to him. In the top of the 13th inning in New York against the Mets, relief pitcher Matt Albers led off with a ringing double to left center, the first extra base hit of his career. He’d eventually come around to score the game winning run later that frame thanks to a sacrifice fly from Jose Abreu. The Sox won the game 2-1 with Albers throwing two innings to get the win. The last time a White Sox pitcher scored the game winning run and got the win in extra innings was Bob Locker against the Angels on August 7, 1966. The Sox won that game in 10 innings 9-8.

New ownership is the light. And it will happen eventually. Just take care of yourself and hope to be around to see it.

Well played sir. Moncada would probably pull a groin or something while doing it!

And remember just a few years ago EVERY team in MLB got a check for I believe 52 million dollars when baseball sold off BAM Tech to a private company. The domestic and international revenue streams are staggering right now for MLB.

He can say directly and honestly to the media what everyone has seen. Terrible fundamentals, awful situational hitting, poor defense, pitching afraid to attack the strike zone, little depth et al. THAT's why they "haven't clicked as a team yet..." He comes across as clueless by saying what he did, he's not stupid he's been in the game for over a decade. And putting it the way he did insults the fan base. If WE can see what the hell is wrong and he honestly can't what does that say about him? That's not throwing people under a bus, that's being forthright and honest with everyone...players, front office, media, fan base. If someone doesn't like it, then do something about it. He doesn't even have to say it mockingly or angrily, just stating facts in a respectful tone of voice. It would be a refreshing change of pace from the BS that Hahn says in an arrogant disdainful manner.

Maybe he needs to eat more salads! ?

I thought I read where he's either close to returning or has already started.

Sox finish the month of May at 15-14. More mediocrity!.

“We haven’t clicked yet as a team and why that is, I’m not sure. But we’re working every single day to figure it out and when we do, hopefully we’ll go on a nice little stretch.” ---Pedro Grifol to DVS of the Sun-Times. ? That my friends is called whistling past the graveyard. And he's the manager, I'm assuming well paid, but he doesn't know why the team hasn't put anything together this season (longest win streak is three game...) He fits right in with this incompetent, dysfunctional and inept organization. That's what the rebuild has come down to, "Hoping." ?

Total complete garbage.

May 31, 1914 - Joe “The Butcher Boy” Benz, (so named because that’s what he did in the off season) fired a no-hitter beating Cleveland 6-1. The no-hitter was at Comiskey Park. The Indians run was unearned in the fourth inning because of three White Sox errors in succession. Benz walked two and struck out three on the day. May 31, 1950 - Sox G.M. Frank Lane made a six-player deal with the Senators and included former All- Star second baseman Cass Michaels (real name Casimir Kwietniewski) in it. The move was important because it cleared the way for a youngster named Nellie Fox to take over full time at the position. That year Fox would play in 130 games with 497 at-bats. May 31, 1970 - The torpid White Sox, on their way to the worst single season in franchise history annihilated the Red Sox in Boston 22-13. The Sox banged out 24 hits, Luis Aparicio and Walt Williams had five each with Bill Melton knocking in four RBI’s. Williams also scored five runs. The Sox had innings where they scored seven, six, four and three runs. The Sox victim that afternoon? None other than former Sox star pitcher Gary Peters who lasted less than an inning. It was the second most runs ever scored in a single game by the franchise. May 31, 1971- In the second game of a double header with the Orioles at Comiskey Park, former Sox infielder Don Buford charged pitcher Bart Johnson with his bat after Johnson drilled him with a pitch in his behind in the eighth inning. When Buford went out to left field in the last of the eighth inning, Sox fans pelted him with garbage and vocally let him know what they thought of his actions. Cooler heads prevailed but in the ninth inning while in the on-deck circle Buford went towards the screen to warn a fan. He was then attacked by a second fan from behind who ran across the field. He was alerted by White Sox players yelling from the field since they could see what was happening. Buford knocked him out then his Oriole teammates charged out of the dugout and did a bloody number on that fan who was led away by security. Buford was then thrown out by umpire Nestor Chylak for going to the screen to warn the original fan in the first place and antagonize the situation. The teams split the double header that afternoon. May 31, 1973 - It was an inauspicious debut for a player who’d make himself into a fine big-league hitter. In a game at Chicago that the Sox won 10-2, Brian Downing had just entered the game in the seventh inning making his Major League debut at third base. On his first play in the big leagues, in fact on the first pitch, Downing caught a foul pop off the bat of the Tigers Dick McAuliffe, diving to make the catch. On the play though he’d tear up his knee and have to be placed on the disabled list. Downing would collect his first big league hit in August, an inside the park home run off the Tigers Mickey Lolich in Detroit.

From what I saw this morning Moncada is in the starting lineup for Wednesday.

If you listen to Anderson, it is him. ?

From my interview with Donn Pall: ML: In June the Sox made what turned out to be a major public relations disaster when they released Fisk while the Sox were in Cleveland. Compounding the problem was that they didn’t even hold a press conference to announce it; they sent faxes to the local media. Tell me what happened that day and how Carlton reacted to it and for that matter what the feeling was a few days earlier on "Carlton Fisk Night" at Comiskey Park after he broke the record for games caught. DP: "When we had that night for him I turned out to be the winning pitcher when we beat the Rangers in extra innings. I got Carlton to sign the game ball from that night. “Bo” Jackson went around asking guys if they’d donate 500 hundred dollars each and we surprised “Pudge” by getting him a motorcycle which “Bo” drove to home plate during the ceremonies. After the game the guys had a big party right in the clubhouse. It was great! Later that evening guys went out on the field and started running around and sliding into the bases just like you saw in "Bull Durham." The party went so long into the night that a lot of the guys stayed and slept in the clubhouse because we had an afternoon game the next day! That night is something I won’t forget." "As far as “Pudge” having lost it, I don’t agree with that at all. He still worked very hard but the problem was he was only playing maybe once a week and when you are at that age, not playing causes you to lose your skills quickly. He and Gene (Lamont) (Author’s Note: then Sox manager), didn’t get along at all and it started one day when “Pudge” got thrown out for arguing balls and strikes with an ump. He must have been out there two or three minutes and during that entire time, Gene never came out of the dugout! I mean managers always come out to defend their players and Gene didn’t do that. I lost some respect for him that day and I’m sure the other guys did as well." "We had heard rumblings that something could be happening but it was a poor decision on the part of the Sox to wait until we were in Cleveland before doing something. I mean why have “Pudge” get on the plane if you’re going to release him? That morning Ron Schueler (Author’s Note: White Sox G.M.) called him and told him the Sox let him go. That night we’re at the game and “Pudge” is sitting in the stands yelling at us! He was saying stuff like "you guys suck!" and everybody got a big laugh out of it." "I talked to “Pudge” and he told me he was going to go way out in center field for the rest of the game. I asked him why and he said he was going to sit next to the guy who used to beat on that drum! “Pudge” said “every time I’ve come in here that guy was beating his drum and it drove me nuts, so tonight I’m going to sit next to him,” and he did. He bought the guy a few beers and had a great time." ML: In another incredible public relations blunder you and Fisk were turned away by security guards before Game #1 of the A.L.C.S. I guess you just wanted to say hello to the guys didn’t you? DP: "We got to the game early and yes we tried to get in the clubhouse. The security guards who were there, they were the regular guys that had been there all season. When we tried to go in for a moment, the guard said that Major League Baseball ordered that we couldn’t come in. I thought he was pretty embarrassed about it because he kept kind of shifting his weight from one foot to another and looking down. He said that he felt really bad about it. I thought it was ridiculous. I mean we weren’t agents or a relative of a player, we were players. I could understand about me but how could you not allow Fisk, the guy who was the captain of the team, to come in for a minute and wish everybody luck?" "Pudge” left the park and I followed him into the parking lot for a while. I had tickets to the game so I could get back in but Carlton didn’t have any. He was furious and I think he never forgot about it. I mean come on, somebody couldn’t have invited him up into a luxury box or get him a seat?"

I think this is a real possibility. It would be short sighted because then the Sox would get nothing for the free agents but with this dysfunctional organization anything is possible.