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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 8, 2017 -> 08:16 PM) Capping starting pitchers innings at 120, there were 71 pitchers in the majors who put up a 2.0 WAR or better. That is roughly 2.5 for each team, out of 5 necessary full time starting pitchers. Calling someone who is worth 2 WAR "just a guy" is preposterous. A starting pitcher putting up 2.0 WAR is very valuable and not easy to find. Mat Latos, Jacob Turner, Anthony Ranaudo - those are JAGs. I agree with you, but why this? Doesn't it hurt your argument?

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Mar 8, 2017 -> 06:45 PM) Because you disagree? How do you know that Moncada will hit for average and power like Benintendi? No, because you were expecting a 21 year old AA player to start on a rebuilding MLB team. Even if he were in Boston, he'd be in the minors to start the year. And how do you know for sure that Benintendi will hit for average and power? From his whopping 34 MLB games?

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Mar 8, 2017 -> 12:27 PM) I like Diaz as a potential back of the pen arm but would have preferred a hitter. With Boston set on Devers being their 3B of the future, I think it's possible Dalbec could been expendable in the eyes of Boston. Who knows, maybe Hahn tried and DD said no. At the deadline- Robertson and Frazier/Melky for Dalbec, Swihart, filler(s)?

Haven't read a post of this thread so this may be redundant but: C: Narvaez/Smith 1B: Abreu 2B: Saladino/Sanchez 3B: Frazier SS: Anderson LF: Cabrera CF: Tilson/L. Garcia RF: A. Garcia DH: Davidson/Hayes (RH/LH platoon, because I had 24 players and needed another) SP: Quintana, Rodon, Shields, Gonzalez, Holland RP: Robertson, Jones, Jennings, Ynoa, Putnam, Petricka, Burdi

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 8, 2017 -> 08:38 AM) The deal was awesome for the Sox, whats the issue? That's debatable. While I'm not upset about our return, I still think we could've gotten more. Moncada/Kopech and Diaz as a wild card are fine, but I wish our 3rd piece was better. I know Devers would be unrealistic, but I feel like getting Groome over Basabe would have been a better reflection of Sale's value.

QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 08:39 PM) Help me understand something: Rodon's been pretty mediocre so far in his career; where some see promise in his Sept/Oct results last year, I see a "garbage time hero." He's been a bit of a China Doll so far in his career, with injuries in every season sidelining him, and now whatever this latest issue may be... He's represented by Greed Incarnate, who will never ever agree to a contract extension here. Why is Rodon considered to be a part of this team's core again? Thanks in advance. Not every top prospect comes up like Chris Sale and instantly dominates. Rodon has improved and improved, and had a very strong finish to the season last year. He has ace potential.

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QUOTE (DirtySox @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 05:15 PM) No it doesn't. All was said is that he was slightly under the weather with a stomach thing, but they wanted to keep him on schedule so they had him throw today as originally planned. Read page 4 of this thread. It's not just that, it's the news that he may miss the beginning of the season. Since that came out, a new tidbit about his health has come out every half hour.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 05:06 PM) now they claim he didn't throw hard because of a stomach ache. This keeps getting weirder.

Dan Hayes‏Verified account @CSNHayes Don Cooper said if all goes right Carlos Rodon would make start in first 5 or 6 reg season games. Also said Rodon dealt w/ arm stuff in '16.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 04:09 PM) Your assumption is based on him not being ready? WOW I'm pretty sure he's trolling

I don't get it. A "measured approach" to reduce his workload = him missing the beginning of the season? But he's healthy?

Quintana and Melky for Devers, Groome, Swihart, and Travis. Bet the house.

QUOTE (restinpiss @ Feb 28, 2017 -> 01:55 PM) Keith Law has him at #47 in front of Vlad Jr. Exactly.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 27, 2017 -> 11:43 AM) Hard part is, it is still tough to evaluate. Tatis Jr. looks promising (unfortunately he's a Padre). It takes a long time for these guys to become much of anything and it really hasn't been that long since the whole Wilder fiasco and the related scandal, then add in the fact that Paddy hasn't been around that long (in the scheme of developing 16 year old kids...you really are talking 5-7 years of doing your thing in a space before you get a good idea). We should be at the point where we start seeing some of these guys emerge as they come into the states though and I'm hoping that is a trend we start to see here in 2017 / 2018 (as we are getting to that point in the window, imo). I feel like Sox fans are overrating Tatis Jr. because they're unhappy with how the Shields trade went. I still think he's not really a big time prospect. Had he remained on the White Sox, I doubt he'd be getting much attention.

Every time I open Soxtalk, I read "Robertson to WASH" and get excited for like, .5 seconds before reading the rest of the title. Don't know how it gets me every time, but it does.

They're good quality from MLB.com. I believe that MLB.com and Fanatics are really the same exact site, so you should be good. May depend on if you bought the custom authentic one (I think usually around $250) or the custom regular one (like $120).

QUOTE (New Era on South Side @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 06:00 PM) I'll be there, even though I think the Sox will bring blasts from the pasts back for ticket sales purposes. I went to Konerko's last game, the World Series 10 year reunion and Konerko's jersey retirement ceremony - the place was packed and actually energized for a change. OT, but there really is nothing like an energized Comiskey. Only happens a few times a year now. For me, the last pure "this is awesome" feeling I got due to the energy was Frazier's big 3-run blast against the Cubs last season.

I was waiting for this to happen. I know it was still unconfirmed for a while whether or not he would come back or not.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 22, 2017 -> 07:13 PM) Ah, I was going by fWAR which I've found to be better. I've always thought that fWAR was better for pitchers, and bWAR for position players.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 22, 2017 -> 03:04 PM) Not many though. What if the rule had always been put up 4 fingers and the batter goes to first base? I bet a lot of us would think it would be really dumb to change it to make the pitcher actually throw balls. Sure, but

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 22, 2017 -> 12:17 PM) I get the idea that something could happen, but when we are talking about two examples in 45 years, that is pretty damning to be honest. There have been far more than 2 wild pitches on IBB attempts in the last 45 years. The swings on IBB attempts are rare (Gary Sanchez hit a sac fly on one this year, too), sure, but not wild pitches.

So the Celtics are misinforming the national analysts in an attempt to pressure the Bulls. Kind of what the Sox do with Nightengale. This is a non-story. Some headway was made yesterday but they're still very far apart

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I don't like this, but for a different reason. There are very rare cases where a pitcher is attempting to intentionally walk a batter, but instead throws a wild pitch, or the hitter swings, or somebody (ex: Miguel Cabrera, 2006) gets an RBI knock off an attempted intentional walk. Sure, these cases happen very rarely, but they impact the games greatly when they do happen; eliminating the formality of throwing the four balls prevents them from ever happening, which, in my opinion, is wrong.