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I'm just scared of the contract he'd demand if we actually did try to resign him. 4 years/$52M? I would say he'd be looking for a Victorino like contract except with another year. Not sure that sounds all that appealing to be honest.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 8, 2013 -> 12:42 PM) If you add Headley, this team starts looking viable for next season. By no means a favorite to be a winner, but reduces the amount of good luck it takes to win Yeah probably puts us in that dreaded 80-85 win range with an impending free agent. I don't see how it makes any sense unless we work out an extension with the trade. And there would have to be at least 2 other moves behind it at C and CF with upgrades offensively and defensively.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 7, 2013 -> 02:36 PM) I didn't check that, you're right it'd make zero sense to give up Reed or Santiago for him. Yeah I had no idea he was a free agent either. For some reason I thought he still had at least 3 years of arbitration left. Don't recall hearing much about Gardner until around 2010

Didn't the Castro rumors get shot down already? Why would the Astros trade him?

Hmm wonder if Santiago, De Aza, Reed would get us Sanchez and Gardner? With McCann locked in at C for I'm guessing at least 3 years (could go to Dh after that) Sanchez is kinda blocked so they could be more willing to give him up than before. Plus they have a few other young catchers in their system as well Young controllable arms are exactly what the Yankees need. And throwing a cheap 4th OF as an insurance option to Ichiro wouldn't hurt either.

QUOTE (elwood5892 @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 09:56 PM) Beltran to the Yankees for 3 years/ 45 million. Yikes. He's going to be 37 in April. Guaranteeing him 3 years is crazy

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 06:36 PM) I don't think it makes sense for the Sox to take any righty with their bullpen as it is. Reed, Jones, Lindstrom, and Belisario give 4 of those already. It'd be nice to have at least 1 slot for Petricka or Webb, whoever earns it, and there's a solid chance one of those guys will rapidly out-pitch any Rule 5 pick you slot in there in the spring and the pick would have been a waste. A lefty? Bring it on. I'm just all about adding as much young talent as possible. I'd like to see Webb and Petricka as well, but if they have to pitch 1/2 a season in AAA while Hahn tries to deal 1 of the vet RP's its not the end of the world. Or we could just carry 1 lefty even though that's a little unconventional

Is Perez really better off against major league pitching than Phegley? I 2nd taking a pitcher and sticking them in the bullpen. Brody Colvin was a stud who has ran into a ton of mechanical problems and lost any progress to his career. Could be a classic Coop can fix 'em case. Burawa, Nelo, and Nesbitt all have power arms that could make sense in the bullpen.

I live in NJ about 30 mins away from the Phillies stadium so I see a lot of Brown and I'm not crazy about him. We could definitely use him, don't get me wrong, but it would cost more to get him than DeAza and Santiago and I'm not sure I'd be willing to do that. He's going to hit a bunch of homeruns but unless he learns to hit lefties a little better and learns to walk more he's going to struggle to hit much above .270/.330. He's also pretty horrific in the field. So if the Phillies were somehow dumb enough to do a trade with Santiago as the best piece then yeah I'd be all over it, but that's not going to happen.

The Marinres OF/DH spot is a mess, especially after Morales rejected their qualifying offer. Viciedo/De Aza could be of interest to them, maybe even both. They have Saunders/Ackley/Almonte/Montero to fill 4 spots. I'd do Franklin for Viciedo straight up.

Gordon Beckham is 27 with 2,000+ AB's in the MLB and owns a .249/.314/.380 slash. He has 0 trade value. Only scenario I could see Beckham being traded is if its a swap of another teams failed prospect

I've been a huge proponent of rebuilding and I think its a bad idea to trade Sale. Not yet at least. There's no reason this franchise can't be a serious contender in 2015 if the right moves are made. If for whatever reason we aren't legit contenders by 2015, then yes, you have to start to explore a trade. Really don't even want to think about that though.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 09:37 AM) First, if you believe he can be an above average 2B, then you are just as high on him as most. Secondly, the nature of the beast suggests that if you believe he can be an above average 2B, then he can stick at 3B too (not that you'd necessarily want to) MLB splits last year: 2B: .263/.323/.387/.710 3B: .260/.324/.412/.735 If he is even a .260/.330/.400 guy, his bat can play at 3B. The point I was more trying to make is that in an ideal world and on a good team you'd like a little more production out of 3B than what Semien is likely to bring. Of course there are always exceptions and I'm not saying he can't be serviceable at 3B. He just seems like a more prototypical 2B and he shouldn't be stuck at 3B just because he's the best option we currently have there. I'm looking past next year when I say I believe he should be a 2B.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 4, 2013 -> 10:11 PM) You think Reed is worth Chafin and Trahan? I don't. And I doubt Arizona would. Ehh maybe, maybe not but its debatable. Wouldn't be the 1st time a team traded too many prospects. At worst Reed is a 24 year old very effective set up man who makes

QUOTE (Kevtrem @ Dec 4, 2013 -> 09:05 PM) Viciedo, Quintana, and Reed for Montero, Owings, and Eaton What do you guys thing? Fair or Unfair, who gets shafted and how bad? I'm not sure how realistic is would be for us to get Montero back. Wouldn't make a whole lot sense for a team trying to make a playoff push to trade their only capable catcher. I would definitely target Davidson because he presents a long term solution to 3B. I agree on Owings, he's pretty much a must get. I'm not crazy about Eaton, but I see why he makes sense. They have some minor league depth at pitching too, so could be an opportunity to get another guy in our system. Chafin or Spruill are interesting guys that AZ probably wouldn't miss. Edit: Just now noticed that you have Reed involved too. I think Davidson, Owings, and Eaton is fair just for Q and Viciedo. If we are giving up Reed too I want Davidson, Owings, Eaton, Chafin, and Trahan

I'm not as high on him as most. I see his future as an above average 2B. Highly doubt he ever has the bat to stick at 3B. With that said, I really don't give a damn about Beckham anymore so if Semien were to start there I'd be fine with it. Not a big deal to me if he starts in AAA either though.

There's really outrage over not signing a guy who has had 1 productive season for $7M per? And that 1 year wasn't even a full year. Not to mention he leaves a lot to be desired defensively. Pretty mediocre behind the plate. 2nd worst among all catchers at throwing runners out. Also just noticed that his BABIP was .373 in 400+ AB's. Very high BABIP + very high strike out rate = stay away.

Who cares, its 950K. He's worth bringing into camp at that price. Its not inconceivable that he could be a useful part time player next year.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 09:23 PM) Cardinals really didn't have home run hitters playing though. And Headley still hit 31 home runs. Freese at most his 20? Headley was hurt last year too Oh yeah, cause the Padres team is just full of sluggers....the whole NL west besides the Dodgers for 1/2 a season stinks too. I'm not sure how I keep coming off as a big David Freese lover on this board.....I see Headley as a slight upgrade to Freese who makes $5M more next year. And it would have taken less to get Freese as far as team resources. Doesn't seem like a crazy idea to me.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 07:29 PM) That's easy. Freese is a mediocre player who has had 1 good year in his career. Headley is a good player who has had 1 mediocre year in his career. Freese is 30 years old and a righty. Headley is 29 years old and a lefty. Freese was one of the worst defensive 3B last year. Headley is one of the best defensive 3B in baseball. It's really not even an argument. Oh boy Freese is a whole 11 months older. And Freese was hurt last year, he has been a slightly above average the rest of his career. Headley is a 3B who will make around $9M next year who has posted an OPS over .775 once in his career. I'll pass. His 2010 season of .264/.327/.375 wasn't mediocre by the way? He's had 1 really good season (2012) and 1 season that was a little above average (2011), the rest of his career has been average at best. And Busch is just as bad for hitters as Petco for whoever used that excuse, actually its worse for home runs. http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor/_/order/false

I suggested we should go after David Freese and people practically jumped down my throat, but somehow Headley is a good idea? Somebody please explain this logic to me.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 1, 2013 -> 02:43 AM) I have no clue why you'd assume Cleveland is on some higher level than the rest of us. Very flawed club Yeah true, wouldn't shock me if they only won 80 next year. Either way, the Twins aren't serious playoff contenders despite how many mediocre SP's they sign

Good to see the Twins spending $ to make sure they can compete with us and the Royals for 3rd place in the ALC

Hate to be THAT guy but there is a lot of talk of an '08 team that won 1 playoff game and then failed the following year. That should hardly be the team we are trying to emulate

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Nov 30, 2013 -> 03:14 PM) I understand that what the cubs are doing has brainwashed some people. If everything goes right for them, then they will have 3-5 core players come up to the big leagues together in a few years, and then after a few years of adjusting, they should contend. 2018? All Hahn is doing is basically saying "f*** that". We just added 2 potentially dynamic young guys to our already massive young core at the MLB level. I would take our position over theirs every time. While I respect the rebuild thought process, I just can't see how it applies in the least bit to the White Sox. We already have tons of good, young guys having success at the MLB level. Keep adding good young guys Rick because at the end of the day, all you need to win is good players. We'll agree to disagree on the white Sox having a ton of young talent. We clearly view the talent on the team way different