shysocks

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 07:25 AM) It's more like stupidity to decide the course of a team's future on three games. So what's the combination for selling or buying? 3 wins -- nothing 2 wins -- nothing 1 win -- sell 0 wins -- sell Or what if we win all three and dont gain any ground in the WC? These combinations and possibilities from it are ridiculous to me. Nothing should have changed from last week to today. Whatever combination of wins or losses these next games hold, I'd still trade Shark. If we're resurging, which I doubt, it has been largely due to the offense. There are still four other pitchers in our rotation and Johnson to carry the starting pitching. My only question wouldn't be IF I trade Shark, but whether they'll look for ML playera or prospects in return for him. I really hope there are people in the FO who are thinking past the Boston series. In principle I agree with your post - hopefully the front office isn't being shortsighted. But something absolutely has changed in the last week. A week ago the Sox were 7 games out of a playoff spot with six teams between. Now they're 4.5 games out with four teams between. That's a pretty big shift in seven days, whether one believes they can pull this off or not.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 08:47 PM) Last two weeks of that season still hurt. The '03 team could have hung with anybody in the playoffs. It's a big reason Billy Koch is one of the worst White Sox of all time.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 04:05 PM) Oh, that was the same game. That was the height of Paulie's brutal stretch. I feel like Alomar/Everett trades happened around then as well. It was the first game after those trades. Only know because I was in attendance and I think it was the best game I've every seen in person.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 09:08 PM) Have you looked at the fWAR numbers for the guys we traded away? Samardzija 2.5, Phegley + Bassitt + Semien 2.4, and salary isn't exactly even. Ravelo back to health and hitting again but still in the minors and a ways away. I'd take that back for him happily. My god man, your Everything Sucks routine is exhausting. Nothing about that package has changed since the beginning of the year. Most of the 2.4 comes from that stiff Phegley, and don't bother arguing he isn't a stiff as a result of 100 nice AB's because I refuse to take that notion seriously. Semien is still probably a nice infielder and remains a legitimately tough guy to lose. Bassitt is still just a Guy with a capital G. Ravelo I like, but he's about an average MLBer at best. Add it all up and it's hardly something to throw around the phrase "after all we gave up" to describe.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 12:30 PM) No we're not. We were ALL convinced last week this team wasn't going anywhere, Shark (or perhaps Quintana) needed to go, and this organization desparately needed a significant return to help improve this team's future. Now four days have past and we shouldn't be sellers because of the Indians series?! It's so ridiculous and shortsighted that I fear that the FO thinks similarily. They're too cowardly and afraid to admit their vision for a playoff team failed miseralbe. Hahn should be not be waiting until the conclusion of the Boston series, even if the team happens to sweep them. This is NOT A PLAYOFF TEAM. Have people not been aware of this historically terrible offense? Or it's record against contending teams? I hope they do sweep Boston. It'll test how much courage our front office has to do what's right. After they would inevitable cave and keep Shark, we could then all sit back and watch the White Sox finish around 82 wins for the season. After Shark leaves, we'll have the same offense, same front office, but one supplemental round pick! I would love to watch this team finish with 82 wins. I would be thrilled with that.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 02:45 PM) I especially despise guys like Hanley who are now lecturing Sox fans/executives about "how to do things the right way" now that the Cubs are doing well. Jesus did that switch get flipped quickly. If/when the Cubs win the Series, this town will be insufferable for a few weeks forever. I might plan a vacation to avoid it.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 11:48 AM) http://www.chicagonow.com/soxnet/2015/07/r...by-trade-value/ Number one shouldn't come as a real shock. I hope the o.0 emoticon for Flowers' WAR was intentional because I laughed really hard. I might rank Alexei higher because shortstop. Good post though.

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 04:24 PM) a) How does it change your answer being bottom 9, tie game, runner on 3rd? There are two outs. The infield isn't in. The outfield isn't playing shallow. Are you talking clutch statistics then? No for Alexei? I should stop here because now I know your IQ. Not very high. If you are talking right now? Alexei in July? he's batting close to .300. You talking the last 7 days? De Aza is batting .182... You talking career? 9th inning for Alexei is .262. De Aza .235 You talking tie game? Again Alexei .276, De Aza .257 ... do I need to say more? To I need to compare more career stats? You just want to use this year? This month? I'm sure you'll find an arugment to why you are right. b)LaRoche - if you want to use the "right now" argument -- go ahead. He looks like Adam Dunn lately. I won't even fight this one. I'm taking the guy who has produced over the past decade. Not the guy who's been released 2 times in 6 years. c)You didn't fight Eaton very much, we both know you'd rather have Eaton up there. d)You agreed with me on Melky. So much for the 90% comment that you stood by a few posts ago. I dont have any more time to waste on this argument. Look who you are arguing for! A guy who was traded for a bag of balls and released in the last 12 months! This is my last on this topic and responding to you - however I'm sure you'll respond and try to bait another response - it's what you do. LOL, I bait responses but you sit here calling me a dumbass with a low IQ. That's adorable.

Over/Under 0.5 runs scored off Bauer.

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 02:56 PM) Shysocks: " I said right now, look at my post, I said right now" Yeah that about sums it up but I'll play along. Except for the part about the tie game bottom 9 runner on third situation because that changes the type of hitter you need up and I'm talking overall, best hitter. Alexei - No. In no way. Not even really at any point in his career. LaRoche - Toast? Hurt? Even his effectiveness against righties is eroding. Nope. Eaton - Close. Needs to be hitting more grounders because the power is probably a flash in the pan. Melky - Absolutely, unless this power outage is the new normal for him. I'm glad you put Garcia in the same category as De Aza, because he basically does all the dumb s*** people hated De Aza for.

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 02:22 PM) Exactly. That's why I followed it up with the bats part. But why don't you defend you asinine comment. Do you stand by your statement then? The only hitter better than him is Abreu? Bottom 9, Abreu just hit a triple, tie ball game, on deck ..... and you want .... De Aza over everybody on our team. That's essentially what you just said. Why even mention Sale if you recognized I was talking about hitters? Look at everybody's numbers. It's not that difficult a statement to defend. OPS and wRC+: Tyler Saladino: .857, 134 Jose Abreu: .806, 121 De Aza: .767, 107 Geo Soto: .761, 109 Adam Eaton: .713, 97 And on down. Soto's in a virtual tie, so I'll take my 0.3 player credit you gave me there. Hinges on whether you believe in Saladino and his 37 plate appearances. I have a feeling you'll tell me you do.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 02:01 PM) My main takeaway from this is that Feeky is British? Could be Canadian.

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 01:57 PM) Okay, better than 90%. That means he's better than everybody except 2.5 players. Off the top of my head Abreu and Sale. Oh wait, you are going to say you were only talking bats. I literally used the words "he's a better hitter than..."

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 01:01 PM) Fine. Not savior. Talk about nitpicking a post. It's sunny out. "Who said it's sunny out -- there's a cloud over there" Any argument for De Aza is a dumb argument. How about that? Still hyperbolic and wrong. For starters he's a better hitter than 90% of our team right now and no amount of baserunning mistakes changes that.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-impress...te-sox-offense/ LOL

wut who is saying De Aza would be the savior

Pitchers who have experienced a similar drop in K-rate at roughly Samardzija's age and then had it rebound: Zach Greinke Jon Lester Cole Hamels Francisco Liriano Anibal Sanchez Ubaldo Jimenez I can keep going but that was like 2 minutes of searching. You're overthinking it Balta.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 02:53 PM) I don't give a rats ass if Sale likes Flowers .

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 09:48 AM) At this point, is Juan Uribe less of an age-related risk than Alexei Ramirez? And if $9m doesn't make much of a difference, why can't we have both? Setting aside Uribe, you asked how we could spend $9M to make a difference - I assume you were referring to whether a baseball team is competitive. I was responding in that context, and again, just because you're more than nine million dollars away from competing doesn't mean it can't be spent wisely. Or poorly. There's ALWAYS evidence that a -1 WAR player will produce more. I've argued the extent of that improvement - that last year's power was the outlier, not this year's, for example. I'll also argue the quality of the evidence. From Fangraphs: The key to using quality of contact stats is to use them cautiously. They provide a different look than what we’ve had for many years, but there’s measurement error built into the calculations and we don’t have a perfect understanding of how quality of contact leads to positive outcomes. We also don’t know much about how quickly you can trust the data and how well it ages. I do not believe for one second that Alexei in 2015 is hitting the ball as hard as he always has, but let's grant that he is. We definitely do not know how those values are calculated and we don't really know what they mean. What about the exit angle? Maybe he's just hitting it hard straight into the ground. His ground ball rate is certainly higher. He's pulling the ball less. I don't attribute that to an effort to use the whole field, I attribute it to a loss of bat speed. The fact is he's been a bad hitter three of the past four season now and his defense is undeniably declining. If we're making guesses at his true talent in 2016, I'm guessing 1 WAR. Buy him out and renegotiate if that's the case and we really can't bear to let him go. I don't think he's a guy who'd make us regret moving on though. This is mostly team building philosophy stuff that I'm not too eager to get into right now, but the short answer is that RH's plan to compete immediately might not be the correct plan. Coupling that with my doubts about Alexei ever being an impact player again, I would cut him loose. I'd let the Sanchez/Micah/Saladino trio sort out the middle infield while possibly pursuing somebody for the left side via trade. And I'd sign Uribe because while he might be an equal aging risk, he's come out the other side of having his own fork stuck in him. He also doesn't need as much PT as Alexei and wouldn't get in the way of those three.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 22, 2015 -> 09:13 AM) Ok, but all of that begs the following questions: - Where do you put that $9m that will make a difference? - Who plays SS that is likely to produce more? - What do you gain by selling now (at the lowest possible value) versus later (at potentially higher value)? $9M is never going to make much of a difference so that's kind of an unfair question, but just because you're more than nine million dollars away from competing doesn't mean it can't be spent wisely. Why not give it to Juan Uribe? At his age I can't see it costing much more - if any - than that, even though he's still posting good numbers. You get a player who can take most of the games at third and, if pushed, can probably still play around the diamond. He'll leave room for whatever youth we might have in mind. I know people are probably wary of bringing in journeymen because of how it's gone with Bonifacio, but for every 2015 Bonifacio there's a 2014 Bonifacio. A lot depends on the direction the team wants to go and if it's really locked into this 3-year plan that Kenny just invented.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 21, 2015 -> 03:14 PM) Yordano Ventura optioned to AAA. Good to see him struggle after all the stupid s*** he pulled early in the year. Have fun taking the bus, chump.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 21, 2015 -> 03:50 PM) Erik Johnson, not Edwin Jackson. Oh. Identifying EJ as Edwin Jackson explains that post much better.

QUOTE (Brian26 @ Jul 21, 2015 -> 03:42 PM) IS there actually talk that people want EJ back? LOL. Good Grief. Have you looked at his Charlotte numbers at all? They're really good and it appears that whatever was causing his failure last year is gone.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 20, 2015 -> 03:16 PM) BACK TO BELISARIO He's not the recent ex-Sox I feel like dedicating an image to right now.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 20, 2015 -> 03:41 PM) If we could get Alexei out of the way (and save $4-5 million in the process) I'm totally game for seeing if Saladino can give us a solid 2 months at that spot. If another team is going to get the benefit of his numbers snapping back to normal, I'm ok with that (and the Pirates right now could really use an IF unless Mercer is less hurt than it looked like). And I'd apply that same philosophy to next season too. If we miss out on a best-case Alexei year, can't we live with that? We certainly can just decline his option and renegotiate, which is something you've mentioned a couple times.