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There is no way the Sox talk a high school player with a top 5 pick. My call is either Bohm, Madrigal, or Singer.

So where does Collins project if he doesn't stick behind the plate? First base? DH? He was a huge reach at number 10 overall if he can't stick behind the plate.

The kid has 2 hits in 12 games this year and a 152 slugging percentage. In what bizarro world is that considered good?

This is not good at all. Giolito looked cooked out there tonight. I imagine he is either optioned back to Charlotte or put on the disabled list.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 18, 2018 -> 09:40 PM) Sorry but I hate this logic. 23 teams passed on Mike Trout. By your logic no Front office or scouting department would ever get fired. Guess what, KW and his same crew passed on Trout too. Just like they picked Hawkins over Seager. They had no idea what they were doing in the draft.

Kid is only 24. Why are the Sox cutting bait with him? Maybe is just a late bloomer lol. Also, if you want to feel depressed look at who went after him in that draft. Seager, Wacha, Stroman, Berrios, Piscotty, just to name a few. KW and his crew had no idea what they were doing in the draft. Sale being the blind squirrel finding a nut year.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 02:53 PM) I dont know why you would have to be drafted in the top 10 to be a cant miss process. Jason Heyward for example wouldn't fit that criteria but he was definitely cant miss. Same for Trout. Because my my point was that can't miss prospects are very rare. Some people said they don't exist at all. I disagreed with that saying guys like Harper, Bryant, and Correa were can't miss. Being drafted out of the top ten means the initial scouts already missed on you. I shouldn't be surprised I guess. Some dude argued with me that Moncada is playing better than Albies right now. Let's hope Moncada figures out how to reduce his K rate and hits better. That is something we can all agree on.

QUOTE (Tony @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 02:40 PM) I'm sorry, what round was Moncada drafted in? Ha. Did you see what Boston paid to sign him?

QUOTE (Tony @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 11:55 AM) And the reason has nothing to do with him being a "can't-miss prospect" Those names you listed off were all highly rated prospects that ended up hitting. The scouts were right. You say Bryce Harper, Kris Bryant and Carlos Correa, and I'll give you Ben Grieve, Corey Patterson, Brandon Wood, Lastings Milledge...all "can't miss" at some point in their minor league career. Prospects can ALWAYS miss. Brandon Wood and Lastings Milledge were never "can't miss". Dudes werent even drafted in the top 10. Ben Grieve and Corey Patterson both had decent mlb careers but underperformed expectations. Can't miss prospects do exist. They are just extremely rare.

QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 01:27 PM) I agree Balta, I don't think he was ready last year and I don't think he is now either. I'd like to see him go to Charlotte and completely destroy AAA before getting called up again . Wow. The kid will be 23 years old next month. He is as ready as he will ever be. He has nothing left to learn in the minors. It's time for him to take his lumps with the big boys.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 11:36 AM) You are just using the fact that you know their outcomes to paint the picture of inevitability. Kris Bryant looked really good, he also had swing and miss which could have derailed him (it didn't). Same with Correa. Harper, compared to the hype, has been fairly inconsistent with lots of injuries and only one true great year. No. I'm saying that can't miss prospects do exist especially on the position player side of thing. They are extremely rare but they do exist. Ken Griffey Junior would be the textbook example. There are stories out there about when his Dad was playing for Cincy and Griffey was in high school. Junior would come to practice at the age of 17 and was already a better player than half of the Reds roster. Kid was a can't miss prospect Harper is a stud. Dude was so can't miss he skipped his senior year of high school. There is a reason he is going to get close to a half billion dollars this Winter.

QUOTE (Tony @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 11:15 AM) A can't miss prospect is as real as a unicorn. That's on you if you believed he was "can't miss" Absolutely not true. Bryce Harper, Kris Bryant, and Carlos Correa all say hello.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 10:37 AM) Would it be out of the question to consider sending Moncada down to AAA for a bit? I thought this kid was supposed to be a can't miss prospect? Rick Hahn should be handed his walking papers if Moncada is back in a Knights uniform this year. Moncada has nothing left to learn in AAA. Let's see if he is/was all hype or if he is ready to rumble with the big boys.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 01:40 PM) Lol, out of baseball? Moncada put up a 104 wRC+ last year despite a 32% K rate. He won’t be a superstar if he continues to strike out that frequently, but saying he’d be out of baseball is one of the most ludicrous statements I’ve seen in Soxtalk history. And that’s cool you’re comparing WARs of two young players over the course of their first full season, but I’m not sure what that tells us that we didn’t already know. Albies has a very advanced hit tool and much more developed defensive game. He should be out-producing Moncada right now. Long-term I’d wager the vast majority of GMs would still take Yoan over Albies. The upside is significantly higher with Moncada and that’s saying something given how good Albies could be. Unlike a lot of posters here, GMs aren’t going to completely change their position on a young player because of a slow start. Saying he would be out of baseball is probably a bit hyberbolic. However, I have definitely read things more ludicrous than that around these parts. The Sox having to actually give up something in order to acquire the services of James Shields being one example. Also, that Courtney Hawkins backflip on draft day had some believing the kid was a freak of nature and destined to be the next Bo Jackson. Why do you think that the upside of Moncada is so much higher than Albies? As it stands today Albies is the better player and he is also two years younger. You really think that Albies should be outproducing Moncada right now? I think it should be the other way around.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 12:19 PM) Albies has a 1.5% BB rate to go with a 16.4% K rate. His offense is being fueled by some flukey power numbers. I’ll happily take Moncada and his swing & miss issues over Albies any day of the week. Development is not linear and I would expect Albies’ game to translate quicker to the pros than Yoan’s. And I say that as an Albies fan. LMAO. Moncada has a career 35% strike out rate. He will be out of baseball in a couple years if he can't lower that number. Albies has already put up 2.3 WAR in his career. Moncada is at 1.5. However, Albies is almost 2 years younger than Moncada!!!! No one said development is linear but Albies already looks at home in the big leagues wheras Moncada is a negative war player so far in 08. You might happily take Moncada over Albies but I'm pretty sure Hahn would get told to get lost if he proposed a straight up trade of the two.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 14, 2018 -> 03:45 PM) Or we can always overpay whoever identified Swanson, Albies and Acuna in the Braves’ org and hope he wasn’t tarnished by the GM scandal... This Albies kid looks like he is going to be a special player. He is only 21 and already looks light years ahead of Moncada.

Ozzie Albies or Yoan Moncada. Who would you rather have anchoring second base for you for the next decade?

QUOTE (Tannerfan @ Apr 13, 2018 -> 03:44 PM) The lesson I learned was don’t rush a player to the majors who isn’t ready. Also, Gordon Beckham was a first round pick and never rated anywhere close to the #1 overall prospect in baseball. Blowing a first round pick should not be franchise altering. We all know who Moncada was traded for. This franchise is looking at another decade plus of dark ages if Moncada flames out.

QUOTE (reiks12 @ Apr 13, 2018 -> 04:16 PM) He destroyed AAA , what more can he develop there? How to beat up on AAA pitchers? Yep. Moncada turns 23 next month. He is not a raw teenager anymore. He has nothing left to develop in the minors. It is sink or swim time for Mr. Moncada.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 13, 2018 -> 09:17 AM) Kyle Schwarber had to reset down in Iowa last year, should Theo be fired? Baseball is a hard game and sometimes you need to put players in a position to succeed to help overcome mental, physical, or mechanical hurdles. I’m not suggesting that will be necessary for Yoan, but it’s a real option to consider if he’s still striking out over 40% or the time a month from now. The Cubs didn't trade the best pitcher in the history of their franchise for Kyle Schwarber. Huge difference man. The Sox need Yoan to be a stud.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 13, 2018 -> 07:20 AM) Moncada is no doubt a mess at the plate right now (69% K rate these past three games). Ricky needs to give the kid a day off and let him clear his mind. Even if the entire weekend series is postponed, I’d still have him on the bench this Monday is Oakland. After that, I’d return him to the leadoff spot for a week and see how things go. I doubt batting first is the issue, but moving him out of that spot would be my next remedy. If he’s still struggling like crazy come mid May, I’m not against him spending some time in Charlotte. I’m not expecting that to be necessary by any means, but I’m not completely against the idea if we’re seeing zero improvement with the swing & miss issues. Rick Hahn should be handed his walking papers if Moncada ends up back in Charlotte this year due to poor play. The kid was supposed to be a can't miss prospect. He has nothing left to learn in the minors. It is time to sink or swim with the big boys.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 10:20 PM) I have 100% faith in Ricky, Hahn and Yoan. Trust the process. The Three Musketeers! They are either gonna lead the Sox to the promised land or to another decade of no playoff baseball lol.

Just went back and watched some of Moncada's at bats when he had his cup of coffee back in 16 with Boston. He struck out in 12 of 20 at bats. Looked absoutely lost and overmatched in pretty much every at bat back then. The scary thing is that he looks pretty much exactly the same this year. Kid is constantly falling behind in the count, fouling off good pitches to hit, and striking out looking a ton. Hitting him lead off has been an absolute disaster so far. There is no way he sticks there. The sooner the Sox realize that the better it will be for everyone.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 10:03 PM) it's early but ricky is on the clock. team looks absolutely lifeless and sloppy and is not ready to play on a nightly basis. that's a manager issue. It's a talent problem too. The Sox are running a ton of overhyped prospects and career AAAA players out there on a nightly basis.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 09:55 PM) He’s trying his hardest and has loads of tools Is that you Kenny Williams? Sounds like every first rounder you drafted except Sale in the last decade.