Everything posted by zisk
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2018 Hall of Fame ballots out today.
QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 24, 2017 -> 12:54 PM) Jeff Passan is giving up his vote because of the Joe Morgan letter. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/...-144738128.html Joe Morgan is probably one of the 10 greatest players in my lifetime . I heard Harry Caray slam him and say that Ryne Sandberg was a better player. Joe Morgan may be a jerk in some respects, but this is not one of them. He was about the size of the average 8th grader but he did it without the juice. Sammy Sosa would have been just a good player without it. I know just how Joe Morgan feels. I wonder how Barry Bonds would be regarded if he would have fought the urge. He might have gone down in history as one of the best 2-3 players ever instead of a jerk with a huge noggin. I hate to change the subject, but how do you think Joe Morgan felt when a really good player like Pete Rose got the MVP while playing left field When he was playing a gold glove 2nd base and doubling him up in WAR?. That's why Donald Trump types win elections sometimes.
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Welington Castillo to White Sox
QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 01:36 PM) I like the signing. Very good bat. OK at framing and defense. Now go sign Carlos Gonzalez.
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Abreu trade "unlikely"
How about Abreu for Carson Kelly?
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Off Season Buy Low Candidates
QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Nov 27, 2017 -> 12:28 PM) A young guy but I am pretty intrigued by the Braves' Sean Newcomb. He has a good arm but really struggles with control. While he could still be a starter, I think he could be something dominant out of the pen. I am hoping for Carlos Gonzalez. LF,DH,RF til Eloy is ready. Then flip him at the deadline if he has a bounce back season.
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Shohei Otani is likely coming to the USA
QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 27, 2017 -> 04:02 AM) Yep, that's the ticket. Nothing I've read has indicated he's looking for a specific number of at bats. Just that he wants to be a two-way player. I'm not sure 600 is even possible in the AL anyway. If he makes all 32 starts as a pitcher, that's 32 games he will not be in the lineup which leaves him with 130 games to get his at bats. 500-550 is probably what were looking at AL teams being able to offer. The only way he gets 600+ is signing with an NL team. I think he ends up signing with an AL team. Seattle has a lot to offer Ohtani. Ohtani can pitch and hit in the same game . There isn't a rule prohibiting that.
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Sox Claim OF/1B Daniel Palka From Twins
QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Nov 3, 2017 -> 09:14 PM) I was thinking Danny Hayes. Agreed. Looks like a good pick up.
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Our Next Manager?
QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 29, 2017 -> 07:34 PM) It's the offseason and people are not posting much which means they'll still get mad at me for bringing this up ... but I've been reading a lot of Ozzie speculation stories -- to the Yankees or Tigers, which are just reporters dreaming to get great-copy Ozzie on board. But it made me think. The guy is still young and has a WS ring and speaks Spanish. This guy, who assuredly has matured, would be perfect for our rebuilt team. Get him to sign a waiver saying a committee of three (Jerry, KW and Hahn) will have the right to fine him $100,000 for any controversial statements on Twitter or on radio or TV that they deem harmful. A second violation would be immediate dismissal. And he's also fined $100,000 if he ever makes the statement, "I'd tell you what I really think but I could get fined $100,000 if I do so." The only risk is that Ozzie will open his mouth in negative ways again. How many times did he truly get in trouble opening his mouth in his Chicago years? Not that many. Miami was the bad one. I know he's probably blackballed by all owners and will never work in baseball again, but the White Sox are a different organization. Allegedly so loyal. If Renteria doesn't work out, why not forgive and bring Ozzie back? Before you freak out and say I'm trolling or whtaever, remember Ozzie HAS BEEN in the news this week. Some stories have been written saying Detroit and NYY should hire him. Stephen A Smith called for Ozzie. It's not like I'm trying to cause trouble. Yes I worship Ozzie Guillen if that's the right word. Yes I want him back. And some of these articles give me a smidge of hope. So in your minds ... would you accept Ozzie back?? Please answer. a.) Yes. b.) No. c.) No Bleeping Way. d.) Yes dammit of course! If this topic angers you, sorry. But he is a part of Sox history and he's still young and available and talented. Ozzie was a fine manager besides his love of the bunt. If we did bring him back it would probably take some of the pressure off our young players. Tell him to leave his stupid son in Miami tho.
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Realignment/Expansion
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 25, 2017 -> 12:16 PM) It can exist, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't exist if they played each other more when anecdotal evidence of other rivalries doesn't show any suffering with frequent head to head match ups. I kinda liked it when the leagues were separate. Don't really care to watch the sox playing 8-10 of the teams in the NL.
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Petricka elbow surgery
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QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Oct 11, 2017 -> 08:11 PM) I'll start it off with my suggestion...Maikel Franco from the Phillies. They need pitching and have some infield depth. Wouldn't mind throwing a couple of our pitching prospects at the Phillies if they want to unload Franco. Wouldn't include any of Gio, Lopez, Kopech, Cease, or Hanson though. Who are some young names you'd like to see us acquire for relatively cheap this off season? I looked up his stats. How can a guy hit .230 without striking out all the time? I'm not saying that in jest. Franco hits for good power and only strikes out 17% of the time. Has he just been unlucky?- What do you take from the 2017 season?
QUOTE (ptatc @ Oct 6, 2017 -> 09:46 PM) The sox are in trouble then. I don't think they will spend spend 155 mil on a pitcher like the cubs did for Lester. The Sox might not have to spend on a pitcher like the Cubs did. They have 2-3 guys in the system who are potentially as good or better than Lester. Kopech and Hansen could turn out to be true Aces. If that happens there won't be a need for a 155 million dollar free agent pitcher. Each rebuild is different.- What do you take from the 2017 season?
Avi,Yolmer and Lucas G. were nice surprises this year. Hopefully Leury will be healthier next year while playing like he did this season. Sometimes after a big home run season MLB takes a little juice out of the base the following year, so I would expect a few less from some guys. The defense improved a lot the second half ans I would expect that to continue. As we add more young players next year I'd bet we become more talented and more inconsistent at the same time. 2018 will be fun and 2019 even more so.- Reverse Standings Thread
QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 24, 2017 -> 08:28 AM) I just know we'll fall in love with picks 1-4 and draft like Singer at 4 and everyone will be kinda bummed. I know what you mean but getting a guy like Singer might not be that bad. It looks like he might be the fastest guy in the draft to contribute at the maj- or league level and so far he has been healthy and not over used.- Moncada's Future Role
QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Sep 23, 2017 -> 07:28 PM) I think #2 would be ideal since Moncada already has the eye and sees alot of pitches in his at bats already. I'd go TA #1 and Moncada #2. YM walks a lot. TA never walks. I agree with the guy who thinks TA would be best suited for #6 hole. Bat Moncada lead off and you might end up with a Ricky Henderson type{from my lips to Gods ears}. For #2 slot the next 2-3 years it might be covered very well by Nick Delmonico. His career OBP in the minors is 85 points higher than his BA because he's a patient hitter. He also could use that patience to give YM a chance to steal some bases. If ND turns out to be a .275 hitter with 60-70 walks and 40-50 XBH's for a few years while also making peanuts for a salary, that would be an incredible help. Long term the sox have several in house candidates for #2 hole. Luis Gonzalez is a guy I would keep an eye on.- Are we allowed to get nervous about Moncada at this point?
QUOTE (turnin' two @ Sep 23, 2017 -> 01:38 PM) One thing I would like to see more of from Moncada (as well as a whole bunch of the other guys), is stolen bases. This team has speed to burn and hasn't used it to any real extent. Anderson, Moncada, Engel and Hanson should be running just about every time they are on base. Anderson and Engel have great rations but they don't run enough. Having speed can create a lot of havoc and put pressure on the defense and pitcher, but only if the team uses that speed. Anderson is a good base stealer, but does anyone else notice how slow he is to 1st? If the team could straighten him out coming out of the box his BA would go up 15-20 points.- Are we allowed to get nervous about Moncada at this point?
QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 23, 2017 -> 12:47 AM) Gonna be fun reading 8 months of people b****ing the sox didn't make a "Lester" move this offseason despite: A) There not being a single FA available worth a s*** other than the Royals trio who we're not signing for multiple reasons B) The incredibly high level of stupidity it would be to blow our payroll wad before knowing what the new core vs. holes are before a massive FA class after 2018 Maybe they will only b**** for 7 months.- Trade avi in the offseason?
QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Sep 16, 2017 -> 04:52 AM) That's the thing with Avi. His development has pretty much come at the MLB for all of to see and everyone has formed an opinion based on that. I read numerous posts on prospects being young for a certain level of minor league play. Well, Avi was in the bigs at 21 and has finally seen things come together for him. Eloy, the next big thing, is 21 soon and just got to AA ball. I love your post picture. Chet was a heck of a player. 35 plus years ago, my wife helped Chet's wife open a credit account at the Sears where she worked at after school.- Trade avi in the offseason?
QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Sep 15, 2017 -> 02:51 PM) Who knows if we get the .300/.830+ or if we get a .270/.780 or a .245/.690 season next year. I don't think anyone in the universe thinks Avi will have this good of a year ever again Would like to disagree with you but I can't. Watched him get 5 hits and 7 rbi's with 3 ground balls through the infield and 1 leg hit. He could easily have been 1 for 6 that night. In a bad year he probably would have.- Who says we cant compete next year?
QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 09:08 AM) We'll be better. Bullpen being average may depend on whether Nate Jones exists for a year, but I think we are a little lucky with how stable they've been the last 2 months. I'd expect next year to be 2013/4 level frustrating from our pen. The only part of that is I may be underestimating some help from players currently in AA in our second half, or players like Bummer taking a leap. I'm with you cousin. We'll be better but not enough to compete. The second half could be a lot of fun though. Long term I'm hopeful for the bullpen because of our Farm pitching depth. With Fulmer- Stephens, Clarkin, Flores, Puckett and more we should be able to have a good pen very soon.- Are we allowed to get nervous about Moncada at this point?
QUOTE (ptatc @ Sep 9, 2017 -> 02:12 PM) Correct so the answer should be. You have no reason to be concerned or be positive yet. No one knows anything really other than he is currently struggling. It means absolutely nothing about how good or bad he is going to be. of course everyone would feel better about him if he was hitting .300 with power in this short amount of time. But that also would not indicate he was going to be a good player. Agree that it is too early to tell. But if YM and TA look like this in June 2018,it could be disaster time. Carlos Rodon doesn't calm my nerves much either. Try to stat positive tho.- Afternoon delight: Sox Twins 8/31 game thread
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2017 -> 09:55 AM) The market just doesn't exist for certain players this year. Rentals are bringing zero returns for whatever reason unless there are top notch guys. If the Sox are smart they would be wise to move Migo regardless of return. He's too good right now and could cost them 3-4 positions in next years draft. The difference between 2nd and 6th pick is going to be really small. Derek Hol- land should gets as many starts as possible.- 8/29 Games
QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 30, 2017 -> 10:07 AM) I look at it as the last bad move in the "Go For It" era. Every team makes bad moves. The Sox are no different. Now they have a plan, and we're going to find out if it works over the next 5-7 years. I've got a feeling we're going to find out if it works in about 9 months. Kopek,Hansen and Jimenez are too good to be held back.- seby zavala
He's a little old for his league and I know nothing about his defensive prowess. Can any one fill me in? It sure looks like he can hit.- Can Rodon become a quality mlb starter?
QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Aug 17, 2017 -> 09:34 AM) Anxious to see him after a full offseason healthy, has ace potential still, seems like his floor is a #2 if he can stay healthy Kopech-Rodon-Giolito-Lopez-Hansen 2019 If those 5 guys are the starting 5 in 2019 and just come close to their potential, the Sox could be gettin' jiggy with it sooner than expected.- when can Sox contend?
QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Aug 13, 2017 -> 01:15 PM) The Sox can sign quite a few players for up to about four years from this offseason (three years from the next, so on and so on) and it won't really affect their ability to extend players coming up through the system. They are locked out of international free agency too, so no worries about that. I expect them to be very active in FA. I know that's an unpopular opinion, but they can sign good players as soon as this offseason and it does nothing to hurt their long term prospects. As long as they don't trade farmhands for aging vets, and I don't think they'll do that again, they can even make some of the old types of ALL IN moves as soon as this offseason with limited consequences. There is one thing the Sox should do next year and that would be letting Leury show His defensive ability at all positions. He really could be very valuable for the Sox as a Zobrist type player, and if Basabe or Robert or Gonzales turns into an outstanding center fielder he might bring a nice return in a deadline trade. - Off Season Buy Low Candidates