Any Sale to the Cubs deal starts with Bryant and Contreras, though Schwarber would be a nice throw in. They're the Cubs, they would have to worse than Shelby Miller overpay to get Sale.

Bryant >>>>>> Sale, so not happening.

Any Sale to the Cubs deal starts with Bryant and Contreras, though Schwarber would be a nice throw in. They're the Cubs, they would have to worse than Shelby Miller overpay to get Sale.

 

 

Bryant is already better than Sale is. No chance that happens.

Bryant >>>>>> Sale, so not happening.

 

 

Bryant is already better than Sale is. No chance that happens.

 

Then they don't get Sale. Simple. Why on Earth would the White Sox help the Cubs?

This is an intriguing, yet impossible thought for sure. I think everyone knows that Schwarber is a DH playing in the NL. If the Cubs were smart, they would deal Schwarber for a front line starting pitcher. If the Cubs want Sale, the White Sox will likely request Schwarber AND Baez. I just don't see the Cubs ever giving up on Baez. Although, if the Cubs do enter a bidding war with Boston, Texas etc-- a Baez/Schwarber package might be the most intriguing.

 

I've been saying I could see the Cubs trading Schwarber to the Red Sox for Jackie Bradley Jr.

Then they don't get Sale. Simple. Why on Earth would the White Sox help the Cubs?

 

Why on earth would the Cubs trade a guy who is gonna win the MVP of the league?

Any Sale to the Cubs deal starts with Bryant and Contreras, though Schwarber would be a nice throw in. They're the Cubs, they would have to worse than Shelby Miller overpay to get Sale.

 

That's far too much. I would rather have Sale than Bryant, but Bryant has 5 more years of control and will be cheaper than Sale. You would have to do like Sale + Adams or something.

Then they don't get Sale. Simple. Why on Earth would the White Sox help the Cubs?

Well Sale for Bryant wouldn't help the Cubs, but yeah, we're aren't going to trade with them anyways.

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That's far too much. I would rather have Sale than Bryant, but Bryant has 5 more years of control and will be cheaper than Sale. You would have to do like Sale + Adams or something.

The Cubs aren't trading Bryant for anyone and Spencer Adams is a meaningless sweetener in such a hypothetical trade.

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The Cubs aren't trading Bryant for anyone and Spencer Adams is a meaningless sweetener in such a hypothetical trade.

 

Oh really? Cubs wouldn't trade Bryant for Kershaw, Urias, and Seager? I think you're wrong.

Oh really? Cubs wouldn't trade Bryant for Kershaw, Urias, and Seager? I think you're wrong.

 

That's a ridiculous hypothetical.

 

Point stands: Cubs aren't trading Bryant for anyone.

 

And to think Sale nets Bryant is ridiculous.

 

Then they don't get Sale. Simple. Why on Earth would the White Sox help the Cubs?

 

Why would they help the Cubs? Because it would help us as well.

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Yeah, because you demand more proof from a baseball team than you do a Presidential candidate.

WTF?

Do you have to use your position at SoxTalk to spread your own political opinion?

 

What exactly are you advocating here?

 

 

That's a ridiculous hypothetical.

 

Point stands: Cubs aren't trading Bryant for anyone.

 

And to think Sale nets Bryant is ridiculous.

 

 

 

Why would they help the Cubs? Because it would help us as well.

 

To suggest the Cubs wouldn't trade Bryant for any collection of players in baseball is just pure ignorant. I'm 99.99999% sure they won't trade him, but it's not because he's better than any possible return could net.

Glad that's settled.

Glad that's settled.

 

It's a dumb conversation anyway, the Cubs aren't looking to trade Bryant and I can't see the Sox and Cubs ever trading superstars across the city.

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That's a ridiculous hypothetical.

 

Point stands: Cubs aren't trading Bryant for anyone.

 

And to think Sale nets Bryant is ridiculous.

 

 

 

Why would they help the Cubs? Because it would help us as well.

 

To anyone who actually thought that I thought a trade involving Bryant would go down, I guess I should've used green font, because I don't, but the larger point was that it's the Cubs. I don't want the White Sox to trade a player like Sale to the Cubs unless it destroys their team entirely. The trade would have to be something like Bryant, Contreras, Russell, Schwarber, Fowler (which of course they wouldn't do unless Theo got a TBI and didn't tell anyone until he executed the trade) before I would be okay with Sale going to the Cubs. They and the rest of the AL Central are the teams that would have to franchise-destroyingly overpay to get Sale in my book.

Sale won't ever go to the Cubs. JR would be destroying the value of his own team by helping the Cubs win a World Series.

Oh really? Cubs wouldn't trade Bryant for Kershaw, Urias, and Seager? I think you're wrong.

 

 

It's a dumb conversation anyway, the Cubs aren't looking to trade Bryant and I can't see the Sox and Cubs ever trading superstars across the city.

In no sense was Trayce sold high.

The trade would have been defensible IF the Sox were in a position to win AND they didn't have a gaping hole at CF and pitching depth, particularly in the pen (of course those weaknesses, exacerbated by the trade, are a large reason why the Sox weren't in a position to win).

A savvy trade of Sale plus another year of quality development by the young pitchers, and the Sox could be ready in 2018. But the usual out of Hahn will yield the usual results.

Really? You think he is worth more now with a bad back ?

 

Besides you told us that the Sox needed to be building around Trayce, not waiting for his trade value to peak, which it may have.

In no sense was Trayce sold high.

The trade would have been defensible IF the Sox were in a position to win AND they didn't have a gaping hole at CF and pitching depth, particularly in the pen (of course those weaknesses, exacerbated by the trade, are a large reason why the Sox weren't in a position to win).

A savvy trade of Sale plus another year of quality development by the young pitchers, and the Sox could be ready in 2018. But the usual out of Hahn will yield the usual results.

 

They plugged the hole with a cheap stop gap. He got hurt unfortunately which they didn't plan for.

In no sense was Trayce sold high.

The trade would have been defensible IF the Sox were in a position to win AND they didn't have a gaping hole at CF and pitching depth, particularly in the pen (of course those weaknesses, exacerbated by the trade, are a large reason why the Sox weren't in a position to win).

A savvy trade of Sale plus another year of quality development by the young pitchers, and the Sox could be ready in 2018. But the usual out of Hahn will yield the usual results.

 

Hindsight. Pretty much everyone on this board loved the move at the time.

considering that Thompson regressed to a .700 OPS player (as opposed to the .900 OPS player that Greensox thought he would remain back in May) and he was injured, and pretty much useless after May, I would say they sold high on him.

 

 

considering that Thompson regressed to a .700 OPS player (as opposed to the .900 OPS player that Greensox thought he would remain back in May) and he was injured, and pretty much useless after May, I would say they sold high on him.

 

He finished the year with a .738 OPS after the fast start. His minor league career OPS is .747. He is who his numbers showed he is.

.738 OPS CF is pretty valuable. No need to crap on our ex prospects. I shudder to think how much we are going to give up to get a .750 OPS declining CF.

.738 OPS CF is pretty valuable. No need to crap on our ex prospects. I shudder to think how much we are going to give up to get a .750 OPS declining CF.

A .700 OPS from TT with strong defense in CF would be just about as valuable to this team as adding Cespedes to RF, if he could do that for the bulk of a season and stay healthy. You keep Eaton in RF and you suddenly have OF defense as one of your team's strengths. I wouldn't have guessed he could do that with the bat before breaking into the big leagues, I'm less certain he can't now.

 

Kevin Pillar put up a .679 OPS this year in CF and was a 3.4 fWAR player.

.738 OPS CF is pretty valuable. No need to crap on our ex prospects. I shudder to think how much we are going to give up to get a .750 OPS declining CF.

 

No, I was told that the sox shouldn't have traded a .900 ops outfielder. Then this same outfielder fell off the map after May and now Hahn didn't sell high on an often injured, sometimes decent but mostly not player.

 

the only crapping is the fact that Hahn didn't sell high on him which he clearly did