GreenSox Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 QUOTE (QuickJones81 @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 08:23 PM) Sorry, I know it's not a popular opinion, but I'm just not a fan of Inciarte. I think he is one of those guys that the metrics love but just isn't actually worth what the imperfect metrics say. If we're dealing with Atlanta I want Swanson, Maitan, and some pitching. Not really interested in Inciarte. He's not a good hitter. He's a throw in like a Swithart on the RedSox side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 16, 2016 -> 05:11 PM) He's not a good hitter. He's a throw in like a Swithart on the RedSox side. Behahahahahahhaha - dude hit like 295 with an obp of 350 or something with around 20DRS and what 20 sb at a premium CF position. Yea... f*** that throw in. 😆😆😆😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 16, 2016 -> 08:35 PM) Behahahahahahhaha - dude hit like 295 with an obp of 350 or something with around 20DRS and what 20 sb at a premium CF position. Yea... f*** that throw in. 😆😆😆😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Incarte and Eaton would be a sick defensive pairing and a nice 1 / 2 in a lineup for peanuts until what, 2021? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 16, 2016 -> 08:35 PM) Behahahahahahhaha - dude hit like 295 with an obp of 350 or something with around 20DRS and what 20 sb at a premium CF position. Yea... f*** that throw in. 😆😆😆😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 16, 2016 -> 08:35 PM) Behahahahahahhaha - dude hit like 295 with an obp of 350 or something with around 20DRS and what 20 sb at a premium CF position. Yea... f*** that throw in. 😆😆😆😆 Him and Eaton together in that outfield and at the top of the lineup.. Make it happen Hahn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (reiks12 @ Nov 16, 2016 -> 09:10 PM) Him and Eaton together in that outfield and at the top of the lineup.. Make it happen Hahn! Without considering any other movement - 2017 would look like this... CF - Incarte RF - Eaton 1B - Abreu 3B - Fraizer 2B - Swanson LF - Melky SS - Anderson C - unknown DH - unknown Quintana, Rodon, Gonzales, Shields, Fulmer or pitcher from braves trade Make a s*** ton of more moves and keep it coming. Fills two holes for the rest of this decade and gives us some more depth in our farm. Would be a good start. Edited November 17, 2016 by hi8is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) Just looked at Archer's contract. 5 years/ $39 million. The Rays should be able to command about the same if not more for Archer than Sale. I don't think its likely Archer goes anywhere so realistically, that should be one less likely alternative to Sale. Rays would likely put a higher price on Archer for the Red Sox than the White Sox would to the Red Sox since they are in the same division. Edited November 17, 2016 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Archer isn't as good as Sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 16, 2016 -> 07:11 PM) He's not a good hitter. He's a throw in like a Swithart on the RedSox side. Oh...ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 08:00 AM) Archer isn't as good as Sale I agree. Archer also had a down year and has 2 more years of control. Point is, teams will likely try to buy him based on the season he had last year and the Rays will likely try wait and deal him like at the value he was previous years. I don't see him as an easy to trade for candidate. Now Sonny Gray, he shouldn't really be in the convo (though with an injury plagued 2016, I doubt he gets moved now either). Edited November 17, 2016 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 08:02 AM) Oh...ok Lol I looked at his stats and was like "wtf." Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 08:08 AM) Lol I looked at his stats and was like "wtf." Haha he won a gold glove this season, therefore he now falls into the hero category. so, pssshhhhhhhht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 16, 2016 -> 05:35 PM) Behahahahahahhaha - dude hit like 295 with an obp of 350 or something with around 20DRS and what 20 sb at a premium CF position. Yea... f*** that throw in. 😆😆😆😆 Yea might as well improve the pitching by throwing great defense out there after we trade Sale and Q. DOH ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 16, 2016 -> 07:11 PM) He's not a good hitter. He's a throw in like a Swithart on the RedSox side. He ended the year on a hot streak, but he was hitting terribly around the all-star break (which is why you might think he can't hit). Turned it on after the break and had a pretty good year overall. His defense keeps his value afloat no matter what though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 09:26 AM) He ended the year on a hot streak, but he was hitting terribly around the all-star break (which is why you might think he can't hit). Turned it on after the break and had a pretty good year overall. His defense keeps his value afloat no matter what though. I think he started the year on the dl for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I still see no way this deal comes to fruition if Swanson is off the table. He's the only guy they have besides Inciarte that I would really want anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 09:26 AM) He ended the year on a hot streak, but he was hitting terribly around the all-star break (which is why you might think he can't hit). Turned it on after the break and had a pretty good year overall. His defense keeps his value afloat no matter what though. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...p;year=&t=b May was his bad month. Everything else, he was decent to pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 09:00 AM) Archer isn't as good as Sale No, but two extra years of control at no extra cost is substantial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 10:41 AM) http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...p;year=&t=b May was his bad month. Everything else, he was decent to pretty good Plus he was returning from a pretty serious injury, thus providing a pretty good excuse for a slow start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 It sounds like where Atlanta is strong is a multitude of lower level high ceiling players. Maybe a deal would have 6-7 high upside guys? But I agree, you can't trade Sale without at least one "sure-fire" player in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Jim Callis @jimcallisMLB 11m11 minutes ago If I'm the @WhiteSox, I want Swanson and Maitan headlining a Sale package coming back from the @Braves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 09:43 PM) How is everyone seeing "Swanson and Maitan should be starting points" and somehow ignoring Dansby Swanson's name? He's a GREAT starting point in his own right. So why not take a generational talent along with him, even if he's 4 or 5 years away? You don't want the Braves top prospect because he's too young? The fact that he's so young and thought of so highly should tell you enough. I wouldn't want Maitan is the ONLY centerpiece of the deal, but you're still getting Dansby friggin Swanson. Sounds good to me. I haven't seen any realistic proposals with 2 Swansons, which seems to be the objection here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Read the comments to that tweet. It's hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 02:43 PM) Read the comments to that tweet. It's hilarious. Braves fans don't think sale worth that much lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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