Dunt Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I'm still not ruling out a 3 way trade involving the Mets. If the Sox did actually ask for Conforto, I could see him coming to the Sox with prospects from Pirates as well: Mets get McCutchen, Robertson Pirates get Q Sox get Conforto, Glasnow, Keller, Smith, Dunn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:31 AM) I'd say Pittsburgh is in the lead but well see if Houston ponies up or if New York is like Boston and tops everyone. That's the way I feel. I think Cashman is sitting back saying, no, this is the new way, we need to develop from within, doesn't matter what others are doing the yankees are doing this the right waAAAARRRR I AM YANKEE I HAVE BEST PLAYER NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con te Giolito Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 How do you figure? Moncada > Meadows and Kopech > Glasnow. Hayes and Keller are better than Basabe and Diaz but I think it's fair. Moncada and Meadows are very close, could really go either way on those two. Glasnow > Kopech. Again close but clear advantage for proximity to majors and LHP Hayes and Diaz>>>Basabe and Diaz. Catchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Lost in this is the Nova contract is pretty damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 10:33 AM) This thread is gigantic. Maybe it'll even pass the Cespedes one from last year in terms of size. Yes, but it's kind of been a "catch all" thread in the aftermath of the Sale/Eaton deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:37 AM) Lost in this is the Nova contract is pretty damn good. I saw that and I agree. Only $8 million annually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 08:25 AM) Exactly. Their rotation would be very good along with their lineup. Quintana, Cole, Nova, Taillon, and Kuhl/Hutchison/Williams is a formidable 5. Maybe signing of Nova is a sign that they will be going for it with McCuthen's last 2 seasons with them. Quintana and Jennings for Meadows, Glasnow, Escobar, and Diaz why are we giving away Jennings? Dunn just got $19MM with a fourth-year club/vesting option worth $6MM and a likely buy out. Jennings this past year alone put up .9 fWAR to Dunn's .3 and still has 3 years of control left and won't even be 30 on opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 10:16 AM) I could have sworn there was a tweet recently that said they had no intention of trading Meadows because he is the heir apparent to Cutch That was from me. Yesterday afternoon we googled "possible trade Quintana Pirates" and several articles came up. I think the one I referenced was from Ian Brown of MLB. Not positive. Anyway, it said Pitt was reluctant to trade Meadows because McCutch might go somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Pirates remain among teams in mix for Jose quintana, as @Ken_Rosenthal said— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) December 22, 2016 <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:35 AM) I'm still not ruling out a 3 way trade involving the Mets. If the Sox did actually ask for Conforto, I could see him coming to the Sox with prospects from Pirates as well: Mets get McCutchen, Robertson Pirates get Q Sox get Conforto, Glasnow, Keller, Smith, Dunn I like the 3-way trade thought, but that's a lot going out from the Pirates only to get Q. If they're trading McCutchen, they probably want multiple young pieces themselves..and keep them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 My guess is its out in the agentsphere that Pirates are in on Quintana. This reminds me of the Nats so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:26 AM) A Meadows/Glasnow/Hayes/Diaz package would be ok, IMO. I'd like Keller too if possible. Ok? Getting two top 10 prospects, plus 2 more very interesting guys that are far from flyers would be an outstanding trade. That said, I wouldn't mind finding a way to get Newman in the deal. He excites me. Keller as well. There is definitely a good package to be made out of that group of 6, or 7 including Bell. Meadows has to be the headliner, or I want the other 6, even though I know that won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:43 AM) My guess is its out in the agentsphere that Pirates are in on Quintana. This reminds me of the Nats so much. Pirates and even the Cards look pretty good to me (especially if Q goes to PIT). Cards just need to stay healthy. That's what really hurt them last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:35 AM) I'm still not ruling out a 3 way trade involving the Mets. If the Sox did actually ask for Conforto, I could see him coming to the Sox with prospects from Pirates as well: Mets get McCutchen, Robertson Pirates get Q Sox get Conforto, Glasnow, Keller, Smith, Dunn I think this makes a lot of sense, and Hahn has a history of 3 way trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:35 AM) I'm still not ruling out a 3 way trade involving the Mets. If the Sox did actually ask for Conforto, I could see him coming to the Sox with prospects from Pirates as well: Mets get McCutchen, Robertson Pirates get Q Sox get Conforto, Glasnow, Keller, Smith, Dunn WE NEED BATS! Conforto doesn't cut it for me as the only bat coming back for Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:42 AM) Pirates remain among teams in mix for Jose quintana, as @Ken_Rosenthal said— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) December 22, 2016 <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"> Different tune to what he was saying on MLBN last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peppers312 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 PIT seems to making a legit push. does anyone think the Bucs would part with 2 of the 3 for Quintana? Glasnow Meadows Bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:46 AM) WE NEED BATS! Conforto doesn't cut it for me as the only bat coming back for Q. Dominic Smith is a good hitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (peppers312 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:47 AM) PIT seems to making a legit push. does anyone think the Bucs would part with 2 of the 3 for Quintana? Glasnow Meadows Bell Yes. If they get to pick 2 from those names, I want Glasnow and Meadows. Edited December 22, 2016 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (peppers312 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 10:47 AM) PIT seems to making a legit push. does anyone think the Bucs would part with 2 of the 3 for Quintana? Glasnow Meadows Bell Probably at least one of Meadows/Glasnow and one of Bell/Newman plus two lower level guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con te Giolito Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 The Pirates could easily have decided that 2 years of control on their entire OF has made Meadows expendable and that Quintana is the perfect target for them to pursue with Meadows as a huge chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:48 AM) Dominic Smith is a good hitter. Ahh, yes. Thanks for the correction. Not super familiar with the NYM system. It was Dunn I was thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:49 AM) The Pirates could easily have decided that 2 years of control on their entire OF has made Meadows expendable and that Quintana is the perfect target for them to pursue with Meadows as a huge chip. Exactly. Plus, if Nova and Quintana continue to pitch good and the season for some reason, isn't going how they planned, they could deal Quintana, Nova, McCutchen, etc. over the next year or two. Edited December 22, 2016 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peppers312 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:49 AM) Probably at least one of Meadows/Glasnow and one of Bell/Newman plus two lower level guys. this is what i'm thinking too. Bell and Newman are intriguing players. one plays 1B and the other is a SS. both positions which we already have filled going into next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 09:47 AM) Different tune to what he was saying on MLBN last night. For sure. But I still think especially if Meadows isn't on the table, a ploy to get other teams to make their best offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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