3 hours ago, maxjusttyped said:

Not everyone is going to feel comfortable cheering for a pedophile. I did not root for Brett Myers (domestic abuse) to have success after the Sox traded for him in 2012. Heimlich deserves the opportunity to pursue a career in major league baseball, but I too hope it is not with the White Sox.

That’s what happens when you overlook character to add talent...karma turns him into Devenski on another team.

18 minutes ago, fathom said:

What happened to our precious draft thread

I'm surprised it took this long to get into a Heimlich debate. 

Florida game starting now.  Can stream here if your service provider allows it.

http://www.espn.com/watch/player?bucketId=8570&id=3380172

Who's ready to overreact!!!  Just remember, he hasn't pitched in a few weeks

91-95 with fastball (mostly 92), all 6 hitters have hit ground balls.  No swings and misses so far.

5 minutes ago, turnin' two said:

Haven't you been excusing him because some people that have molested children were molested as children?  Seems a similar story.

That's actually scientific. Read here, here, and here if you're interested in learning about it.

2 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

Pleading guilty means you re guilty. Pretty solid proof. 

This is not true at all (not saying it isn't in this case)

Edited June 3, 20187 yr by BigHurt3515

3 hours ago, Dam8610 said:

Please find his criminal record.

Come on man.  I don't care about semantics in a case that involves the molestation of a child. It is a hard line for me.  You will never see me support him or anyone of his ilk.

Yuck, fastball down to 89-90 already

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Yuck, fastball down to 89-90 already

There isn't anything that I have seen so far that screams pick me at 4

13 minutes ago, fathom said:

91-95 with fastball (mostly 92), all 6 hitters have hit ground balls.  No swings and misses so far.

He looks like he always does to me. Solid fastball, putting it where he wants, but nothing overwhelming. I just wish he had more of an out-pitch. I guess I don't get the Singer love that Baseball America/MLB Pipeline have.

4 minutes ago, fathom said:

Yuck, fastball down to 89-90 already

I wasn't sure if that was more of a cutter? Taking something off it?

I think I easily prefer India to Singer.

2 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

I think I easily prefer India to Singer.

Yep, Singer has good command but very average stuff

5 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

I wasn't sure if that was more of a cutter? Taking something off it?

Didn't look like it as he threw it high with 2 strikes

Looks like a totally different pitcher from when I last saw a lot of him in last year's CWS, and not in a good way. Velocity down 3-4 mph from that game.  His change up looks better, but I think announcer is confusing it with a fastball due to lack of fastball velocity.  

Can we keep the discussion about that other guy who didn’t get drafted last year due to his questionable past out of this thread...

pretty please?

Honestly wouldn't mind going with Liberatore. Pick a high upside guy for cripes sake. Madrigal, India, Bohm, and Singer seem pretty meh to me. Wouldn't mind taking a guy with a higher chance of busting if he has much higher upside than the guys who I think profile as average major leaguers at best.  You need to hit a HR at the top of the draft, even if there is a higher chance of striking out. 

Edited June 3, 20187 yr by Jack Parkman

1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

Honestly wouldn't mind going with Liberatore. Pick a high upside guy for cripes sake. Madrigal, India and Bohm, and Singer seem pretty meh to me. 

The first three college guys you mentioned have some decent upside.

4 minutes ago, Dam8610 said:

The first three college guys you mentioned have some decent upside.

I think they profile as ML Regulars at best. I want them to go for a guy who could be a star. It is a shitty draft at the top, I'm ok with them taking that kind of risk in a bad draft where everyone from roughly 2-20 are on the same level. To reiterate, try to hit a homer, even if there is a greater chance of striking out. 

Edited June 3, 20187 yr by Jack Parkman

11 minutes ago, Dam8610 said:

The first three college guys you mentioned have some decent upside.

India looks electric quite often

6 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

I think they profile as ML Regulars at best. I want them to go for a guy who could be a star. It is a shitty draft at the top, I'm ok with them taking that kind of risk in a bad draft where everyone from roughly 2-20 are on the same level. To reiterate, try to hit a homer, even if there is a greater chance of striking out. 

What? I could see the upside of Bohm or Madrigal as 5 WAR players, maybe even better.

Madrigal due up third to hit here on ESPNEWS/ESPN2

Re: Madrigal, using the grades from Fangraphs and the scale Kiley put out explaining grades, they're basically saying they think he'll be a .300ish hitter with an .800-.850 OPS, 20-20 potential, and gold glove caliber defense at 2B, which could be above average or plus at SS and 3B as well. That sounds like a 5 WAR player to me.

2 minutes ago, Heads22 said:

Madrigal due up third to hit here on ESPNEWS/ESPN2

Nasty shadow