George Ofman @georgeofman Sox and Nats talking Quintana/Eaton package. Let's we where this goes.

Gotta be Giolito and Turner there is no other package that could be close.

This type of package would have to include Turner. Nats most certainly have the prospects to pull it off.

Gotta be Giolito and Turner there is no other package that could be close.

I think they could certainly do it without Turner. Question is whether they'd gut their system like that.

Would have to include Turner in this package.

If they didn't have the prospects for Sale/Cutch, I don't see how they have the prospects for this. Q is probably worth a little less than Sale, but Eaton should be valued a bit higher than Cutch.

 

Maybe this is Rizzo try to waste RH/KW's time after they used him to perfection yesterday.

 

The only thing I can think of is maybe it could depend on what the Yankees were going to give up for Gio. That could have added to their inventory.

 

 

But I can't see how you give up both of these guys and not get Turner as part of the package. Even if they gave you their top 10, it isn't worth it IMO.

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If they didn't have the prospects for Sale/Cutch, I don't see how they have the prospects for this. Q is probably worth a little less than Sale, but Eaton should be valued a bit higher than Cutch.

 

Maybe this is Rizzo try to waste RH/KW's time after they used him to perfection yesterday.

I think they have the prospects, we just liked the package for Sale more then the package they offered. In Cutch's case, I think it is more that the two teams can't agree on what the right price is, not that the nats don't have the talent to get it done. They most definitely have the horses to do it, will they want to pay the price, that is another question.

I've heard it over and over again: "Any Sox fans who think they will get Turner back have to get it out of their heads. It's not happening." But I would say if the Nationals think they can get both Q and Eaton without Turner they are the crazy ones.

I've never once seen George Ofman be right on anything, just FYI.

I think they could certainly do it without Turner. Question is whether they'd gut their system like that.

 

If Turner is not in the conversation, there is no conversation.

 

Add Robertson or Jones if needed.

 

Eaton and Quintana are better than Sale.

This type of package would have to include Turner. Nats most certainly have the prospects to pull it off.

 

Totally. And with getting Eaton, you give them five years of Eaton for six years of Turner so it covers up that loss.

Great I'm all for them gutting their system. I do remember though a Nationals Beat Writer saying that there was nothing serious with the Nationals and Q this morning

I just don't see them parting with Turner. So this has gotta be a bait again for teams like Astros and Cardinals trying to make a move for these two.

I think they have the prospects, we just liked the package for Sale more then the package they offered. In Cutch's case, I think it is more that the two teams can't agree on what the right price is, not that the nats don't have the talent to get it done. They most definitely have the horses to do it, will they want to pay the price, that is another question.

I was a little surprised to hear that for most of the baseball industry, package the White Sox received was considered head and shoulders above Giolito/Robles/ Lopez which supposedly was their offer for Sale.

 

Q/Eaton are so much surplus, Turner has to be part of it, or I don't see how it makes sense for the White Sox. I think trading your 2 most valuable assets to the same team probably isn't the best way to maximize value in a return.

Eh, not a fan of packaging them unless Turner/Giolito/Robles all involved.

Let's suppose the Nats get Eaton and Q without Turner....you are looking at something like this....

 

Giolito, Robles, Lopez, Fedde, Kieboom, Dunning, Nuese, Stevenson, Severino, Soto.

 

Those are their top 8 prospects, plus Severino, their #14 prospect, and Soto, their #15 prospect. How the hell can they feel good about that? Austin Voth then becomes their #1 prospect. That's a terrible farm system.

 

OR, they include Turner and it's something like....

 

Turner, Robles,Lopez, Fedde, Stevenson, Severino.

Q/Eaton are so much surplus, Turner has to be part of it, or I don't see how it makes sense for the White Sox. I think trading your 2 most valuable assets to the same team probably isn't the best way to maximize value in a return.

 

Everything here is on point.

 

I'd much rather do: Quintana to Houston for Martes, Tucker, Reed+ and Eaton to Washington for Robles, Lopez/Ross, and Severino

Man this is one I have to say I'd be pissed without Turner.

 

But why on EARTH would Eaton be valuable to them if he's not pushing turner to SS?

Let's suppose the Nats get Eaton and Q without Turner....you are looking at something like this....

 

Giolito, Robles, Lopez, Fedde, Kieboom, Dunning, Nuese, Stevenson, Severino, Soto.

 

Those are their top 8 prospects, plus Severino, their #14 prospect, and Soto, their #15 prospect. How the hell can they feel good about that? Austin Voth then becomes their #1 prospect. That's a terrible farm system.

 

OR, they include Turner and it's something like....

 

Turner, Robles,Lopez, Fedde, Stevenson, Severino.

 

Using my "Sale was worth half of our fake trade" calculations, would people be okay with

 

Turner, Robles, Severino

I'd much rather do: Quintana to Houston for Martes, Tucker, Reed+ and Eaton to Washington for Robles, Lopez/Ross, and Severino

I'd hate that Eaton deal.

I'd much rather do: Quintana to Houston for Martes, Tucker, Reed+ and Eaton to Washington for Robles, Lopez/Ross, and Severino

 

Quintana for Martes, Tucket, Reed, Stubbs.

 

Eaton for Robles, Lopez, Keiboom, Severino.

Shocked If Turner is involved.

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Man this is one I have to say I'd be pissed without Turner.

 

But why on EARTH would Eaton be valuable to them if he's not pushing turner to SS?

 

Not to mention that Turner has to be a way better CF than Eaton anyway. Not sure that helps them then. You have Bryce Harper in RF, so that ain't happening.

I'm fairly certain Nats may view Giolito and lopez as near interchangeable.

 

I think a fair deal for Eaton is Robles and Lopez. Adding more is unlikely. And two top 30 players for eaton is a GREAT trade.