May 9, 20178 yr Dan HayesVerified account @CSNHayes 4m4 minutes ago Re: Yoan Moncada, Rick Hahn and the #WhiteSox want to see all the proof. He's going to be at Charlotte for a while.
May 9, 20178 yr Author QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ May 9, 2017 -> 04:35 PM) If only they brought Avi along like this...... So you would like to see Moncada stay in the minors for about 700 more AB's?
May 9, 20178 yr I've made it clear that I think it's best for him to be in the majors as quickly as possible but I'm not going to complain about it either. Hope he continues to kill it down in Charlotte.
May 9, 20178 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 9, 2017 -> 04:41 PM) So you would like to see Moncada stay in the minors for about 700 more AB's? This board would go into full meltdown
May 9, 20178 yr It's less about development and more about money which I guess makes sense. By keeping him down until middle of July I think they'll save about 8-10 million. Sure he can work on his defense but there's little if any development left to do with his bat. I can't say I'm surprised but I am disappointed.
May 9, 20178 yr Let him learn his trade without being rushed for a full minor league year. Cal him up September 1, not before in my opinion. Edited May 9, 20178 yr by Lip Man 1
May 9, 20178 yr Same birthday as Frank Thomas, and Frank didn't come up until August 2 for a good team. Whatever gets them more control and save some bucks, it's fine. He's young. Edited May 9, 20178 yr by flavum
May 9, 20178 yr Has about 350 plate appearances above A ball. Great prospect still fans too much. Games in Chicago are meaningless. If he is going to be a star let him show us for a few months in AAA. Totally about development.
May 10, 20178 yr Rick Hahn on #WhiteSox prospect Yoan Moncada: 'We're not going to rush this' -- https://t.co/nGWdt6GztG (@CSNHayes) #WhiteSoxTalk https://t.co/DyM4ksXipp https://twitter.com/CSNChicago/status/862098251478171649
May 10, 20178 yr The 30% strike out rate doesn't concern anyone? Although he is on pace to hit 30 homers, he only has 3 doubles and 1 triple, which isn't much for a guy with his speed. I don't think that it is accurate to say that he is dominating AAA. He certainly has not done enough to suggest that he has nothing more to prove, at that level. Striking out 30% of the time, while compiling 10 extra base hits, and driving in only 11 runs, in the first 28 games, is not awe-inspiring. Considering his age, what exactly is the hurry?
May 10, 20178 yr QUOTE (Lillian @ May 10, 2017 -> 04:41 AM) The 30% strike out rate doesn't concern anyone? Although he is on pace to hit 30 homers, he only has 3 doubles and 1 triple, which isn't much for a guy with his speed. I don't think that it is accurate to say that he is dominating AAA. He certainly has not done enough to suggest that he has nothing more to prove, at that level. Striking out 30% of the time, while compiling 10 extra base hits, and driving in only 11 runs, in the first 28 games, is not awe-inspiring. Considering his age, what exactly is the hurry? If you're evaluating a prospect by RBI's, you're doing it wrong. Agree on the K rate, there is room for improvement there.
May 10, 20178 yr Check out our very own raBBit on the score this morning discussing this very subject. He got up early and was on at 6:45, so you will have to listen to the podcast
May 10, 20178 yr I am glad we are taking this route though I'm anxious to see him. I have not been able to see much, but when he comes up he is going to get a steady stream of breaking pitches. He's had success in AAA feasting on first pitch fastballs (it seems), longer he is down there the more adjustments those pitchers can make and he can adjust with less pressure.
May 10, 20178 yr QUOTE (bmags @ May 10, 2017 -> 08:47 AM) Is there a place to find ISO for minor leagues? It's listed on Fangraphs. Moncada's ISO is currently .204.
May 10, 20178 yr QUOTE (bmags @ May 10, 2017 -> 08:47 AM) Is there a place to find ISO for minor leagues? Huh? It's just SLG-AVG.
May 10, 20178 yr QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ May 10, 2017 -> 08:50 AM) It's listed on Fangraphs. Moncada's ISO is currently .204. I guess I could have done that math on my own, but there you go. Another weakness from Lillian he is actually good in.
May 10, 20178 yr QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ May 10, 2017 -> 08:57 AM) Huh? It's just SLG-AVG. Thanks, I forgot that part and remembered after omar's response.
May 10, 20178 yr QUOTE (bmags @ May 10, 2017 -> 08:58 AM) I guess I could have done that math on my own, but there you go. Another weakness from Lillian he is actually good in. Yes, this is partially a money driven move, but I'm not discounting the fact that Moncada is not a finished product and still needs to work on defense and reducing his strikeout % Boston rushed him to the majors last year and the results were not good. Why short Yoan a few crucial months of minor league development before he is up at the mlb level for good? He'll force his way to Chicago soon enough, and until then we can all wait in anticipation
May 10, 20178 yr I understand it's a fine line with someone like Moncada. He's pretty much dominating in AAA, and on the surface it's easy to say bring him up. But, if it's being communicated to him, and he understands, that he should be using this time down there to work on his strikeout rate and defense, he's going to be that much better when he does come up. Plus, I think we can all agree that the Sox, despite the nice start, will not be competing for the division. Bringing Moncada up now may improve the second base situation and add some life to the lineup, but it wouldn't make a big difference in the overall scheme of things. I watched a few innings of Sunday's Knights game. Moncada looked great. It's going to be exciting when he gets the call. We're just going to have to wait a while...and we should be okay with that. Edited May 10, 20178 yr by pittshoganerkoff
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