turnin' two Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ May 20, 2017 -> 02:57 PM) Exactly. Completely different situations. The Sale deal, coupled with their other moves and not really adding any even mid dollar veterans may have freed up the capital this move required. It is hard to say for sure, but, really, it doesn't matter. The Sox now have 2 elite hitting prospects. Pair this with the emergence of Adolfo, and the future is looking better than it was a month ago, even with Giolito's struggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ May 20, 2017 -> 12:57 PM) Exactly. Completely different situations. There's obviously two ways of looking at it. You and 2014 are right... my line of thinking is right. Subjectivity is objective here. Just be fixed in your perspective, move along, and make party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (JPN366 @ May 20, 2017 -> 02:57 PM) I was totally on the Dayan Viciedo train, having watched him in person and meeting him in 2009. I hope this isn't another Dayan Viciedo. Robert is far more strict than viciedo and projects to be a quality defensive player. He had 70 grade speed making him able to play center field, as well as develop into a significant base stealing hreat. This is a great day for White Sox fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (ChrisLikesBaseball @ May 20, 2017 -> 02:57 PM) But they got Moncada into their system without paying substantial any salary. That's a pretty big discount. Moncada's salary is minimal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ May 20, 2017 -> 02:56 PM) I actually read about this but I can't remember for the life of me. Want to say some percentage goes to players union other to operating budget. If you happen to run into it again, please post. Super curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Kinda bummed this takes them out of the 2018 J2 signing period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:01 PM) Kinda bummed this takes them out of the 2018 J2 signing period lol, shocker this would come from you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 20, 2017 -> 07:59 PM) Today is a great day! Love the aggression and keeps the Cuban Sox pipeline wide open. Kudos to Hahn and JR....and KW. Big boy rebuilding move here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 20, 2017 -> 08:02 PM) lol, shocker this would come from you Sarcasm alert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (turnin' two @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:00 PM) The Sale deal, coupled with their other moves and not really adding any even mid dollar veterans may have freed up the capital this move required. It is hard to say for sure, but, really, it doesn't matter. The Sox now have 2 elite hitting prospects. Pair this with the emergence of Adolfo, and the future is looking better than it was a month ago, even with Giolito's struggles. For sure, agreed here. If we had a $140M payroll probably wouldn't have seen this. Super pumped to have Robert in our system! Can't wait to see how he adapts early on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:03 PM) Sarcasm alert Ya gots to use the green! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (turnin' two @ May 20, 2017 -> 04:00 PM) The Sale deal, coupled with their other moves and not really adding any even mid dollar veterans may have freed up the capital this move required. It is hard to say for sure, but, really, it doesn't matter. The Sox now have 2 elite hitting prospects. Pair this with the emergence of Adolfo, and the future is looking better than it was a month ago, even with Giolito's struggles. Avi possibly turning into a solid ever day player and Robertson dominating have also been positive. Honestly this rebuild is going awesome so far. Giolito is only one guy among many promising pitching prospects. On the balance even if he never pans out others should. Sox need to build same depth position player wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:01 PM) Kinda bummed this takes them out of the 2018 J2 signing period Hahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ May 20, 2017 -> 02:19 PM) #2 or #3 25 - 30m in penalties and banned for 2 years from more than 300k signings I'd put Robert as our #3 overall prospect right now, but overall he's likely a top 15 overall MLB prospect and fv 60 grade player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Can we please make sure he has an edible passport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:01 PM) Kinda bummed this takes them out of the 2018 J2 signing period They must know Robert is a can't-miss prospect. This has to be on that level, or they're beyond screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ May 20, 2017 -> 08:04 PM) I'd put Robert as our #3 overall prospect right now, but overall he's likely a top 15 overall MLB prospect and fv 60 grade player. Before people accuse KLaw of being a hater, he has never been that high on Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:03 PM) Avi possibly turning into a solid ever day player and Robertson dominating have also been positive. Honestly this rebuild is going awesome so far. Giolito is only one guy among many promising pitching prospects. On the balance even if he never pans out others should. Sox need to build same depth position player wise. Add in a quality priest at #11 overall next month and we are well on our way into this rebuild. I have to give the front office credit for working hard to turn this around quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (flavum @ May 20, 2017 -> 08:04 PM) They must know Robert is a can't-miss prospect. This has to be on that level, or they're beyond screwed. I will gladly take a chance of him having a higher career WAR than any mix of guys they would have signed next two years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 https://twitter.com/BenBadler/status/866020978618490880 Really interested to hear this scenario with DSL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Interesting... SS - Anderson 2B - Moncada C - Collins DH - Abreu CF - Robert 1B - ? / A. Garcia 3B - ? LF - ? RF - Adolfo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) Potential 2020 Lineup: CF Robert SS Anderson 1B Abreu RF Avi 2B Moncada DH/3B Davidson 3B/DH (Free Agent?) C Collins LF Tilson That's an exciting lineup, with the assumption that Tilson is healthy and can actually hit, actually, a lot of this lineup has assumptions lol. One possible alteration, if we have a lot of faith in Yolmer and if he stays hot at the plate, maybe move Moncada to 3B and have Yolmer play 2B, with Davidson DHing. OR DH Abreu and put Davidson at 1B, or find a free agent 1B and DH Abreu. I think we were all spoiled with Konerko's defense over there at first. Edited May 20, 2017 by Scoots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:06 PM) Interesting... SS - Anderson 2B - Moncada C - Collins DH - Abreu CF - Rutherford 1B - Beer 3B - Machado LF - Robert RF - A. Garcia Fixed it for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (fathom @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:06 PM) I will gladly take a chance of him having a higher career WAR than any mix of guys they would have signed next two years I agree, and I kinda figured you were being sarcastic. Today is a good day for the rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChrisSamsa Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:00 PM) Moncada's salary is minimal. That's what I'm saying... Moncada cost The White Sox the services of Chris Sale and very little financially. That's a value-add of $31.5mm at a cost much lower than that. Having that piece in place gave the team the finances to go after Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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