August 22, 20187 yr 5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: At the very least, you claim a guy who you are willing to take on at his salary and you can use. All of MLB knew he was available, so it isn't like a Bryce Harper situation where teams might not even bother. As long as you want them, there is no downside to a claim. If a deal doesn't work it doesn't work. But that doesn't stop another deal. True
August 22, 20187 yr If next year is a rebuilding year, which it certainly looks like, one thing to take from this season and others is don’t be too pissed over which relievers make the team opening day. You will see just about everyone by the end of the season.
August 22, 20187 yr I’m not overly surprised by this return. When Avilan didn’t get moved in July, I figured there must not be much of a market. Moving him is still the right move, just to give our minor league lefties more opportunities.
August 22, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m not overly surprised by this return. When Avilan didn’t get moved in July, I figured there must not be much of a market. Moving him is still the right move, just to give our minor league lefties more opportunities. Yeah he is just a guy. He isn’t terrible. He isn’t outstanding. Just kind of blah. Sometimes blah is good.
August 22, 20187 yr Some years teams wildly overpay for relievers, some years they go for pennies on the dollar
August 23, 20187 yr This pitcher isn't much, but because he isn't much in AA, it doesn't mean much that he's Rule 5 eligible. And Avilan isn't much either, for a major league reliever. Edited August 23, 20187 yr by GreenSox
August 23, 20187 yr They couldn't have two Avi uniforms for the players weekend, so one of them had to go.
August 23, 20187 yr Worth noting: Jake Peter has turned into Kodi Medeiros, Wilber Perez, and Felix Paulino. Just have to hope one of them becomes useful.
August 23, 20187 yr Like a few have stated throughout this thread, the Sox have Fry, Bummer, Frare, plus Cedeno. Avilan was expendable. I am a little surprised more teams didn't have any interest in him. Still would rather give guys like Fry and Bummer more chances though if the Sox felt Avilan didn't have a place moving forward. At the end of the day, he was a LOOGY on a bad team with good K/9. That *should* be replicable when the time come to repeat.
August 23, 20187 yr 8 hours ago, Quinarvy said: Worth noting: Jake Peter has turned into Kodi Medeiros, Wilber Perez, and Felix Paulino. Just have to hope one of them becomes useful. Jake Peter and several million dollars.
August 23, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, Dick Allen said: Jake Peter and several million dollars. Which is great.
August 23, 20187 yr If the Sox don't place him on the 40-man roster this year, he'll be subject to the rule 5 draft. But he's probably a very low risk of being taken. He's struggled on the move from A to AA, so a team that drafted him would be taking a pretty big gamble to move him up to the major league (25-man) roster. Of course, the Sox wouldn't have done the deal if they didn't feel he had some promise.
August 23, 20187 yr I don't see why any should be concerned with the 40 man this offseason. I see at least 12 names on the current 40 man that if the White Sox punted on, no one would blink an eye. And there are several more that would be, who cares? as well.
August 23, 20187 yr 26 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: I don't see why any should be concerned with the 40 man this offseason. I see at least 12 names on the current 40 man that if the White Sox punted on, no one would blink an eye. And there are several more that would be, who cares? as well. None of us would care, no. It's a realistic issue though. It's not a video game. They aren't just going to discard guys for no reason. There's no reason to add anyone that doesn't need to be added.
August 23, 20187 yr 13 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: None of us would care, no. It's a realistic issue though. It's not a video game. They aren't just going to discard guys for no reason. There's no reason to add anyone that doesn't need to be added. It's really not an issue. 39 man roster. 2 guys on the 60 in Gonzalez and Farquar, who you wouldn't give major league contracts. So still 39. Clarkin, Danish, Gomez, Santiago, Shields, Garneau, Rondon, Skole, Cordell, LaMarre, easily outrighted. How many spots do they need? If more, there is more crap you can get rid of. This is a terrible team. For it to have 40 man roster issues this offseason is crazy. Edited August 23, 20187 yr by Dick Allen
August 23, 20187 yr 18 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: It's really not an issue. 39 man roster. 2 guys on the 60 in Gonzalez and Farquar, who you wouldn't give major league contracts. So still 39. Clarkin, Danish, Gomez, Santiago, Shields, Garneau, Rondon, Skole, Cordell, LaMarre, easily outrighted. How many spots do they need? If more, there is more crap you can get rid of. This is a terrible team. For it to have 40 man roster issues this offseason is crazy. I don't see the Sox outrighting Cordell or Rondon this offseason. I think they'd probably rather hang onto Clarkin too. But the point still remains.
August 23, 20187 yr I would add Jeanmar Gomez and Charlie Tilson to the list of guys that you could cut. They currently have 11 outfielders on the 40 man. Nobody needs that many.
August 23, 20187 yr 1 hour ago, Dick Allen said: It's really not an issue. 39 man roster. 2 guys on the 60 in Gonzalez and Farquar, who you wouldn't give major league contracts. So still 39. Clarkin, Danish, Gomez, Santiago, Shields, Garneau, Rondon, Skole, Cordell, LaMarre, easily outrighted. How many spots do they need? If more, there is more crap you can get rid of. This is a terrible team. For it to have 40 man roster issues this offseason is crazy. Still not the point. I highly doubt they'd dump Cordell and Rondon BTW. They need to add 9 players for the Rule-5. This shouldn't be a problem. It doesn't mean that it makes sense to use a spot on a guy like Ian Hamilton though who doesn't need to be added in a losing season anyway. That's always been my point.
August 23, 20187 yr 3 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Still not the point. I highly doubt they'd dump Cordell and Rondon BTW. They need to add 9 players for the Rule-5. This shouldn't be a problem. It doesn't mean that it makes sense to use a spot on a guy like Ian Hamilton though who doesn't need to be added in a losing season anyway. That's always been my point. It is the point. Some seem worried about the 40. It is of no concern this offseason. We can only hope it is of concern in the future. BTW, Ryan Cordell is going to be 27 years old next Opening Day and has a .611 OPS in Charlotte. I think he would be an easy outright.
August 23, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: It is the point. Some seem worried about the 40. It is of no concern this offseason. We can only hope it is of concern in the future. BTW, Ryan Cordell is going to be 27 years old next Opening Day and has a .611 OPS in Charlotte. I think he would be an easy outright. Cordell has missed the majority of the season with a back injury. I believe he is OPSing over .800 since his return. Realistically with Leury hurt, Cordell should be up getting regular at bats over a guy like Ryan LaMarre. Cordell is probably nothing, but they're going to give him a shot at some point.
August 23, 20187 yr 38 minutes ago, skooch said: I believe Cordell broke his collar bone. Correct, back injury was last season.
August 24, 20187 yr 19 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: Cordell has missed the majority of the season with a back injury. I believe he is OPSing over .800 since his return. Realistically with Leury hurt, Cordell should be up getting regular at bats over a guy like Ryan LaMarre. Cordell is probably nothing, but they're going to give him a shot at some point. Hahn was really high on Cordell prior to the season have to think at some point he gets a shot.
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.