Struggled as a starter at AA but I think he did better out of pen.  

Easily the best moment from the Ian Clarkin era:

https://mobile.twitter.com/jon_greenberg/status/1064992238521016331?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

Edited November 20, 20187 yr by Chicago White Sox

Lame. 

Tito Polo is a minor FA as well too, I believe.  Did the Sox resign him? 

If not, Sox are down to Rutherford as the return for Frazier, Davidson and Kahnle.   

11 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

If not, Sox are down to Rutherford as the return for Frazier, Davidson and Kahnle.   

I remember me, @Rowand44, @knightniand a couple others hated the deal at the time... and still do. But it is what it is. 

Edited November 20, 20187 yr by SoxAce

4 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

I remember me, @Rowand44 and a couple others hated the deal at the time... and still do. But it is what it is. 

I didn’t hate the deal, but did not like Clarkin being the second piece.

Yeah.. I think the overally consensus of that trade was disappointed. 

The trade was pretty much always going to be based on what Rutherford becomes. Everyone else was pretty much a throw in. Like with every prospect acquired, there is fantasies about what would happen if everything went right and Clarkin became legit, and Polo was an everyday major leaguer, but those were lottery tickets. 

2 minutes ago, cjgalloway said:

Yeah.. I think the overally consensus of that trade was disappointed. 

Go back to the trade thread here. Not even. 

Just now, Dick Allen said:

The trade was pretty much always going to be based on what Rutherford becomes. Everyone else was pretty much a throw in. Like with every prospect acquired, there is fantasies about what would happen if everything went right and Clarkin became legit, and Polo was an everyday major leaguer, but those were lottery tickets. 

The Sox did hype up Clarkin a bit and ultimately put him on the 40 man roster last year when it was very unlikely IMO someone would take him in the Rule 5.  That being said, hard to be too upset with losing him after his horrific 2018 season.  I don’t anticipate him being on the Cubs for very long.

1 minute ago, Dick Allen said:

The trade was pretty much always going to be based on what Rutherford becomes. Everyone else was pretty much a throw in. Like with every prospect acquired, there is fantasies about what would happen if everything went right and Clarkin became legit, and Polo was an everyday major leaguer, but those were lottery tickets. 

They weren't particularly good lotto tickets though is my main issue. Yankees have such huge lat am investment, there are plenty of raw lotto tickets they could have eyed. Sox avoided those for some much more developed talent in the trades for Swarzak, Kahnle/Robertson, Jennings, Soria trades sox went after flawed but more developed talent. 

23 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Tito Polo is a minor FA as well too, I believe.  Did the Sox resign him? 

If not, Sox are down to Rutherford as the return for Frazier, Davidson and Kahnle.   

I assume that you meant Robertson, not Davidson.

12 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

Go back to the trade thread here. Not even. 

I mean Rutherford is a legit prospect. The only way the Sox were getting more was if they ate some of Robertson deal.

I still think they made out quite well. Rutherford bounced back last season and Robertson made 13 million to not close and put up a 3 ish ERA and FIP.

10 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said:

I mean Rutherford is a legit prospect. The only way the Sox were getting more was if they ate some of Robertson deal.

I still think they made out quite well. Rutherford bounced back last season and Robertson made 13 million to not close and put up a 3 ish ERA and FIP.

They basically did eat some though because they took back Clippard. 

The moral of the story is don't trade for Yankees prospects 

WHERE IS HANH ??!!!! IF A GOOD TEAM LIKE THE CUBS SEE A USE FOR HIM HOW COULD WE NOT? WHAT IS GOING ON?

I am probably going to over do this but I don't really care...

Cubs pitching coach steps down too.

 

41 minutes ago, GenericUserName said:

They basically did eat some though because they took back Clippard. 

Not really we traded Clippard to the Astros later and made a profit of 1M.

10 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

Cubs pitching coach steps down too.

 

Hell yea.  Personal reasons my ass.  I think he sees some serious regression coming and he doesn’t want to get blamed.   Now he has a clean slate to interview after the season. 

3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

 

I think Harper to the Cubs is all but a lock now. 

Edited November 21, 20187 yr by Dam8610

While it's a slight bummer to lose anyone to the Cubs, i don't forsee this ever coming back to bite the Sox.

The White Sox could have done worse. They could have held onto Kahnle. 

Wasn't there someone during the season vehemently claiming that Clarkin was a better prospect than Dane Dunning?

44 minutes ago, DirtySox said:

Wasn't there someone during the season vehemently claiming that Clarkin was a better prospect than Dane Dunning?

I think you’re right but I can’t recall who that was.