December 13, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m really surprised by us being this aggressive with high-end bullpen arms. Same here. I thought they were trying to build their own pen with some of the arms in the minors. Guess they might not be as high on Hamilton, Burdi, Burr, etc. as we thought?
December 13, 20187 yr Just now, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Same here. I thought they were trying to build their own pen with some of the arms in the minors. Guess they might not be as high on Hamilton, Burdi, Burr, etc. as we thought? Or trying to compete and want to not put heavy pressure on the kids. Let them settle in and not thrown into the fire
December 13, 20187 yr You don't reach out to all these arms unless you have some sort of designs on competing, IMO
December 13, 20187 yr 7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m really surprised by us being this aggressive with high-end bullpen arms. I’m not really. I think the fastest way to wins this year is a better bullpen. If their internal options prove to be good, all of these players can be traded. Again, you might not get incredible prospects back with their contracts, but if it’s the money and spot you want you can get rid of it. Quickest way to more competitiveness in 2019 without sacrificing much flexibility was bullpen imo.
December 13, 20187 yr 4 minutes ago, bmags said: I’m not really. I think the fastest way to wins this year is a better bullpen. If their internal options prove to be good, all of these players can be traded. Again, you might not get incredible prospects back with their contracts, but if it’s the money and spot you want you can get rid of it. Quickest way to more competitiveness in 2019 without sacrificing much flexibility was bullpen imo. I don’t know, paying a $12M+ AAV for a reliever feels a year early. Lot of dead money throughout the league after last year’s run on relievers. If I’m being honest, I’d much rather use those dollars toward adding Grandal. Now, if we end up adding Harper or Machado, I’m much more open to something like this.
December 13, 20187 yr Beefing up the bullpen to take pressure off the rotation is exactly what the Sox should be doing. I hope they get both Familia and Ottavino.
December 13, 20187 yr 5 minutes ago, Bigsoxhurt35 said: Fully anticipating a big reliever signing or two tonight All it takes is for one reliever to set the market and they should start a chain reaction.
December 13, 20187 yr They're beefing up the pen because they aren't going to be adding a significant piece to the rotation.
December 13, 20187 yr Just now, daggins said: They're beefing up the pen because they aren't going to be adding a significant piece to the rotation. Rightfully so. None of the starting pitchers on the market are worth overpaying for.
December 13, 20187 yr 12 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I don’t know, paying a $12M+ AAV for a reliever feels a year early. Lot of dead money throughout the league after last year’s run on relievers. If I’m being honest, I’d much rather use those dollars toward adding Grandal. Now, if we end up adding Harper or Machado, I’m much more open to something like this. Agreed. But then you run into the chicken/egg debate. Perhaps signing these guys will increase our chances of landing Harper or Machado. (Ok, that isn't exactly a chicken/egg scenario, but my points remains)
December 13, 20187 yr 1 minute ago, SoxBlanco said: Agreed. But then you run into the chicken/egg debate. Perhaps signing these guys will increase our chances of landing Harper or Machado. (Ok, that isn't exactly a chicken/egg scenario, but my points remains) And I’m totally fine with that. But damn do relievers scare me. I guess I still have nightmares from Scott Linebrink.
December 13, 20187 yr The starting pitching on the market is pretty bad, so buying relief arms makes the most sense to me.
December 13, 20187 yr 34 minutes ago, LittleHurt05 said: Cue the Addison Russell thread This. I took a ton of heat saying I'd consider Addison Russell. I have a feeling more than a few people who were anti Addison are okay with this move.... which makes zero sense if you're playing the moral game. Either way, my stance is still the same. Do your homework. Build a team with character. I wouldn't exclude anybody because of their past if you truly believe they are trying to make a change and have made a change.
December 13, 20187 yr 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: And I’m totally fine with that. But damn do relievers scare me. I guess I still have nightmares from Scott Linebrink. Please don't mention that bum's name again. Please. I try to purge him from my memories.
December 13, 20187 yr 36 minutes ago, Heads22 said: You don't reach out to all these arms unless you have some sort of designs on competing, IMO How so. This board loves the idea of flipping guys at the all star break for prospects. We could easily be doing that. Acquiring guys we can trade if they get fixed or even better than they are by Coop.
December 13, 20187 yr 9 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: And I’m totally fine with that. But damn do relievers scare me. I guess I still have nightmares from Scott Linebrink. We've had some horrific pitchers on our team, starters and relievers, since 2005. Really bad ones.
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