If the Sox budget for Manny was semi-low they would have not have invested the money in Alonso and Jay. They would have just put that towards the Manny budget. I’m sure they have a pretty nice ceiling of what they will be willing to go on him. 

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Moncada (yuck)

I'll second that.

This SD guy has to be full of shit. He actually said it could be done this weekend. Machado and his agent couldn't be big enough dicks and have that news come out while the Sox fan fest was going on. And no one else has it.

Edited January 26, 20197 yr by Dick Allen

2 minutes ago, Sockin said:

Jerry is so old school that I could absolutely see him thinking the contracts that players are getting now are ridiculous and he won’t overspend on players.

Then he can die with yet another half-assed product on the field.  I believe this time is different though and he’s finally willing to spend.

How many times have we seen, Machado is signing with this team and that team and now this team.. can’t believe any of this shit until he actually signs somewhere. 

1 minute ago, Dick Allen said:

This SD guy has to be full of shit. He actually said it could be done this weekend. Machado and his agent couldn't be big enough dicks and have that news come out while the Sox fan fest was going on. And no one else has it.

I wouldn’t put it past his agent, but why would Lozano go to this guy of all people to put this out though?

2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

This SD guy has to be full of shit. He actually said it could be done this weekend. Machado and his agent couldn't be big enough dicks and have that news come out while the Sox fan fest was going on. And no one else has it.

if it was as close as he said, I find it next to impossible to imagine Yonder saying what he did last night.

Just now, fathom said:

if it was as close as he said, I find it next to impossible to imagine Yonder saying what he did last night.

And I doubt he would be face timing with abreu and moncada with manny 

I haven't felt this yanked around since I was going with a girlfriend in high school!

Not that I am trying to talk myself into not believing this San Diego guy and of course I have already covered my living room in fecal matter but this really could be a sign that it’s close with the Sox. Lozano feeds some San Diego people to leak to that weirdo that it’s close to give one last push from Sox. Not that that guys report would sway Hahn in anyway but who knows. 

Lozano knows it’s SoxFest. He knows the front office will feel extra pressure this weekend. Good time to apply some pressure. 

 

Not or saying that’s what this is. Who the hell knows? But the timing would be right on his end to make Hahn, JR, et al sweat a little bit. 

7 minutes ago, Saufley said:

I haven't felt this yanked around since I was going with a girlfriend in high school!

My HS girlfriend yanked me a lot, but the good yank. 

Like I said the other day, the only advantage San Diego has over Chicago is the weather. Illinois has a lower tax rate than California, the Sox play in a much easier division than the Padres, and the Sox have some of his best friends on this team. If the money is relatively equal, I see no reason why he would choose them over us.

 

Someone who is smart and knows this shit based on the tax differences beween Illinois and California what would SD have pay to match the offers of 7/210 and 8/250?

1 minute ago, Orlando said:

 

People are going to jump all over this saying look at Jerry again being cheap, but if you are Hahn there is no way in hell he is going to put that on the line saying yeah of course we will be the highest bidder

43 minutes ago, chetkincaid said:

Right. It’s not Hahn’s money. Jerry is the one approving the offers. 

If after all this hoopla by the Sox about spending, if Reinsdorf nixes a signing because it is $300 mil or over, then he should sell the team. We have had FIVE post seasons under his helm. He now says he will spend and if he allows Machado to go somewhere else because he had a limit after all, then he should sell. He would have no credibility with me. I hope we are all over reacting and this will not happen, but just saying enough trolling us. The money is there. Spend it.

 

2 minutes ago, Mooseman said:

Someone who is smart and knows this shit based on the tax differences beween Illinois and California what would SD have pay to match the offers of 7/210 and 8/250?

Pages and pages ago, the same question was asked about LA compared to Chicago. I believe the tax consequences in CA were somewhere between 1.5-2M/season, but I could be wrong. I'm a financial advisor but I'm not licensed in CA so I'm not entirely sure.

Hahn should be listening ? just as hard as us fans to what Yonder is saying during the interview sessions. Like what was that Yonder? You said maybe a neighbor?...what surprise? Come again?...

 

4 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

Pages and pages ago, the same question was asked about LA compared to Chicago. I believe the tax consequences in CA were somewhere between 1.5-2M/season, but I could be wrong. I'm a financial advisor but I'm not licensed in CA so I'm not entirely sure.

Illinois is one of the 3 highest taxed states in the country.

 

Not just using income tax as my barometer. 

Edited January 26, 20197 yr by Look at Ray Ray Run

26 minutes ago, shipps said:

Not that I am trying to talk myself into not believing this San Diego guy and of course I have already covered my living room in fecal matter but this really could be a sign that it’s close with the Sox. Lozano feeds some San Diego people to leak to that weirdo that it’s close to give one last push from Sox. Not that that guys report would sway Hahn in anyway but who knows. 

When it gets down to THE moment there could be some crazy cross-country Doo hitting the fan. That is what the agents pray for. 

I wonder if the seriousness of the Padres interest in Machado is at all tied to them acquiring Realmuto.  My guess is Realmuto is traded before Machado signs.  Pulling off that trade would be a sign that they want to compete this year, which could motivate them further to acquire Machado.  If the Dodgers get Realmuto, I could see the Padres waiting until next offseason to make a splash.

1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Illinois is one of the 3 highest taxed states in the country.

For the average taxpayer sure, but California’s maximum state income tax is 8+ points higher than ours.  That’s what will kill Manny signing with the Padres.

'go down swinging' means we'll have offers at the expected level of what he's gonna get

it's what the board wants, basically to a T, so i'm not going to get up in arms on that phrasing.

If he takes less than us to go to NY we are not to blame. if he takes slightly less with Chicago to avoid Philly, then Philly would blame themselves for not having Alonso/Jay. You can go round and round on what it means to have money not be the sole determinant.

5 minutes ago, Princess Dye said:

'go down swinging' means we'll have offers at the expected level of what he's gonna get

it's what the board wants, basically to a T, so i'm not going to get up in arms on that phrasing.

If he takes less than us to go to NY we are not to blame. if he takes slightly less with Chicago to avoid Philly, then Philly would blame themselves for not having Alonso/Jay. You can go round and round on what it means to have money not be the sole determinant.

Pretty sure its going to come out after this that, indeed, the White Sox never offered more than 7 years and ~200 million.