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Sox in on Marcell Ozuna? I mean, maybe. Or not.

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1 minute ago, mqr said:

At the point in the day where it feels unlikely to be true. 

I dont know whether it is or isnt, but its 1030am in San Diego and Ozuna was still in the DR last night. 

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2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

6 WAR ceiling?  His best season was in 2017 and he was a 5 fWAR player.  2.8 and 2.6 last 2 seasons.

And the GG is meaningless.  He is, at best, an average LF with a poor arm.  That won't translate well to RF.  

I don't think anyone has an issue with the bat, but its just a question of fit.  I think punting OF defense is super stupid, so that is why I am not gung-ho on the Ozuna train.  I also think paying anywhere near 4/$80M for him is just going to be bad news.  I'd be more receptive to the whole thing had we not resigned Abreu for 3 years for no reason.  

Ozuna would be a huge upgrade, but he isn't a perfect fit by any means, commits the Sox to poor OF defense for at least the next 3-4 seasons, and takes the Sox out of the running for much better RF fits next offseason.  I certainly don't want them to go into 2020 with Leury as the RF, but there are options that shouldn't  cost much via trade or FA that are nice 1 fits that make much more sense to me, personally.  

According to BaseballReference he had a 6.1 WAR season in 2017 -- two seasons ago.

Just now, Buehrle>Wood said:

I dont know whether it is or isnt, but its 1030am in San Diego and Ozuna was still in the DR last night. 

Fair, always seems like shit happens before noon though. Could just be confirmation bias fro Wheeler, Grandal, Machado. 

2 minutes ago, mqr said:

At the point in the day where it feels unlikely to be true. 

Nope. I wouldn't expect something until 6PM Chicago time. 

Just now, mqr said:

Fair, always seems like shit happens before noon though. Could just be confirmation bias fro Wheeler, Grandal, Machado. 

I think they still would need to meet with him and his agent to go over particulars, and to talk. 

All this reminds me of Jermaine Dye signing in the 2004 offseason. 

JD could be penciled in for 2 or 3 war season and he was coming off of some "meh" seasons in Oakland still coming back from his leg injury. The big question mark from Sox fans back then was "how's his defense gonna play in RF". We all know how that ended for the Sox. 

Unless the Sox overpay dramatically for Ozuna, I don't see how this isn't a massive upgrade over Ryan Cordell, regardless of what Ozuna's projected WAR and batted ball exit velocity ratings are.

The plot thickens...

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2 minutes ago, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said:

All this reminds me of Jermaine Dye signing in the 2004 offseason. 

JD could be penciled in for 2 or 3 war season and he was coming off of some "meh" seasons in Oakland still coming back from his leg injury. The big question mark from Sox fans back then was "how's his defense gonna play in RF". We all know how that ended for the Sox. 

Unless the Sox overpay dramatically for Ozuna, I don't see how this isn't a massive upgrade over Ryan Cordell, regardless of what Ozuna's projected WAR and batted ball exit velocity ratings are.

It's an upgrade, but just because things worked out with Dye doesn't mean they will go the same with Ozuna. 

Well now I think the Ozuna stuff is bogus

3 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

The plot thickens...

So you're saying there's no baby

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2 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

The plot thickens...

Thank god.  

3 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

The plot thickens...

It doesn't really thicken at all. It sounds like it just ended.

5 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

The plot thickens...

Actually, sounds like the plot and movie has ended. 

But then again, when he says he doesn't recall he is probably lying. 

Edited by SonofaRoache

Looks like that should just about put an end to that rumor, but the one question I have is where the Gomez/Castillo reports came from. I doubt they outright lied about it, but has to be some truth in there? Does it matter? Probably not. 

JR busy monitoring his front office via Twitter. I love this org.

1 minute ago, Hatchetman said:

JR busy monitoring his front office via Twitter. I love this org.

....what?

Yeah, I think that kills it.

8 minutes ago, fathom said:

Well now I think the Ozuna stuff is bogus

Yeah, would seem odd for Jerry to come out and flat out deny it like that.

I’m definitely not saying the rumors are true, but why wouldn’t the Sox FO deny this until it’s a done deal?  

It makes zero sense for them to admit they are finalizing negotiations with a FA, and they certainly don’t owe these reporters anything.  

1 minute ago, mqr said:

....what?

It's a joke. How else is JR hearing about Ozuna rumors?

Rumor destroyed.  Bad look for Frank Castillo and Hector Gómez.

Just now, Sambuca said:

I’m definitely not saying the rumors are true, but why wouldn’t the Sox FO deny this until it’s a done deal?  

It makes zero sense for them to admit they are finalizing negotiations with a FA, and they certainly don’t owe these reporters anything.  

He could have just said nothing instead of saying he called Hahn to make sure he wasn't senile. 

10 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

The plot thickens...

And as usual, the White Sox don’t do shit or miss out.

 

1 minute ago, Sambuca said:

I’m definitely not saying the rumors are true, but why wouldn’t the Sox FO deny this until it’s a done deal?  

It makes zero sense for them to admit they are finalizing negotiations with a FA, and they certainly don’t owe these reporters anything.  

yeah leaning towards not true, but agree with you here. 

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