1 minute ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Wheeler + Hamels would be fucking fantastic 

Is this where I’m pessimistic and say it’s just Hamels and not both

?

This board is going to be nightmarish to read if the White Sox sign Hamels before/instead of Wheeler.

I can deal with both, but if it is just Hamels.....gross. If Hahn goes cheap we riot

What if the Sox go castellanos, hamels, and a low end pitcher? Would you guys be mad about that? Because I sure wouldn’t 

10 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

Well that's odd. He was pretty clear he wanted to go to a contender. I honestly want nothing to do with the guy either. His arm is going to fall off at some point.

As much as I want Wheeler I do think the Sox (in addition) could greatly benefit from a sage vet since this will be a super young staff

Just now, MyNamesRod said:

What if the Sox go castellanos, hamels, and a low end pitcher? Would you guys be mad about that? Because I sure wouldn’t 

I wouldn’t be happy if Hamels was our primary addition to the rotation.

Hamels would be just fine as our 2nd best SP addition this off-season. If he's our best pick up, that is putting a ton of pressure on Kopech and Cease for 2019.

1 minute ago, MyNamesRod said:

What if the Sox go castellanos, hamels, and a low end pitcher? Would you guys be mad about that? Because I sure wouldn’t 

Yes. Thats a lot of money in avg production.

1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

I dont care what his WAR is, I'd never pay for a pitcher like Marco Gonzales.

Agree. Low K, high walk, manages an under four year.

That he did it in front of an atrocious infield was kind of impressive though.

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

I wouldn’t be happy if Hamels was our primary addition to the rotation.

That would be disgusting. If the Sox fail on Wheeler, then they should explore the trade market.

As others have said, I’d love Hamels if he’s our 5th starter and he makes a lot of sense there.

Hope we get him and Wheeler, that’d be fantastic.

Cole was a 3 WAR LHSP last year.

Just now, Sarava said:

That would be disgusting. If the Sox fail on Wheeler, then they should explore the trade market.

Trade market will ugly though and don’t think we have the chips for a true impact starter.  If we miss on Wheeler, I feel like Ryu is the next best alternative.

6 minutes ago, bmags said:

Yes. Thats a lot of money in avg production.

If I told you before the off season started that the Sox would get grandal, castellanos, and hamels plus a few lesser free agents, I can’t imagine you’d be upset by that. That’s a damn good off season id say. 

I will say the Sox should absolutely go after ryu before hamels though. I don’t see ryu getting anything too crazy 

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Just now, MyNamesRod said:

If I told you before the off season started that the Sox would get grandal, castellanos, and hamels plus a few lesser free agents, I can’t imagine you’d be upset by that. That’s a damn good off season id say 

I would have absolutely said that’s a trash offseason.

Hahn has said 2 starters.

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Trade market will ugly though and don’t think we have the chips for a true impact starter.  If we miss on Wheeler, I feel like Ryu is the next best alternative.

If we miss on Wheeler we could shoot for the first tier guys.?

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Trade market will ugly though and don’t think we have the chips for a true impact starter.  If we miss on Wheeler, I feel like Ryu is the next best alternative.

Yes. I’d probably prefer Hahn move to ryu and go after betances is I constrict myself to white Sox thinking.

Id personally prefer they use their budget flexibility and add an absolute fixture like Cole or Rendon.

Just now, bmags said:

I would have absolutely said that’s a trash offseason.

That’s absurd. How is getting a top 3 catcher, a solid right fielder (that’s only been getting better), and a solid 3/4 starter a trash off season? Your expectations are wayyyy too high. 

Hamels and his family love Chicago. I'm not shocked at all he wants to stay. 

1 minute ago, MyNamesRod said:

That’s absurd. How is getting a top 3 catcher, a solid right fielder (that’s only been getting better), and a solid 3/4 starter a trash off season? Your expectations are wayyyy too high. 

On a whole it's good additions. But it falls way short for starting pitching and keeps the Sox from being contenders as a result.

2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Hahn has said 2 starters.

He has said that and Hamels is the best guy who may be willing to take a one year deal.  I had him in my offseason plan in addition to Wheeler at 1/$17.5M.  If this doesn’t prevent them from adding one of the big four starters (which it shouldn’t), then I think it would be fantastic to add some stability to the rotation before the Winter Meetings.

1 minute ago, Sarava said:

On a whole it's good additions. But it falls way short for starting pitching and keeps the Sox from being contenders as a result.

That’s fair. 

11 minutes ago, bmags said:

Agree. Low K, high walk, manages an under four year.

 That he did it in front of an atrocious infield was kind of impressive though.

Not a huge Gonzales fan but he isn't a high walk rate pitcher, in fact he's one of the best pitchers at avoiding walks. That said, I'm sure the Mariners are asking for something we'd be unable to pay. Wheeler + Hamels would be great.

7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Trade market will ugly though and don’t think we have the chips for a true impact starter.  If we miss on Wheeler, I feel like Ryu is the next best alternative

Ryu could probably be had for a 3/50 deal.