Hahn and Sox need to push issue and not get used by Hendriks for two months.  I would love to have him but don’t be a pawn.  Move on or give an ultimatum.  

5 minutes ago, Bad Hombre said:

 

fANTASTIC

Brad Hand has never impressed me when he’s pitched against the Sox. No thanks.

7 minutes ago, Bad Hombre said:

 

I was waiting for this. Hendriks sweepstakes is almost over. 

1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I was waiting for this. Hendriks sweepstakes is almost over. 

Let’s hope. Dare to dream. Don’t be held hostage. 

1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I was waiting for this. Hendriks sweepstakes is almost over. 

And not good news for Sox?

2 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Brad Hand has never impressed me when he’s pitched against the Sox. No thanks.

Yeah, didn't impress you vs one team but impressed against all 29 others.. PASS

1 minute ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

And not good news for Sox?

Nah, this has to be posturing by us to bring Hendriks' team back into final position.

My guess is they have final offers and want to see if they can squeeze a bit more, we float we're looking at other people, Hendriks settles on the offers in front of him and decides.

Liam Hendriks and Brad Hand?

This is posturing. It will be over soon.

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3 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said:

Nah, this has to be posturing by us to bring Hendriks' team back into final position.

My guess is they have final offers and want to see if they can squeeze a bit more, we float we're looking at other people, Hendriks settles on the offers in front of him and decides.

This. Makes a lot of sense with the Astros and Dodgers interest floated out there the Sox counter with Hand interest. Hopefully we know where he’s pitching in the next few days.

10 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I was waiting for this. Hendriks sweepstakes is almost over. 

Was just going to say that this seems like a response by the Sox to the Hendriks camp in one way or the other.

14 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Brad Hand has never impressed me when he’s pitched against the Sox. No thanks.

Hasn't been that bad

https://www.baseball-reference.com/tools/split_stats.cgi?full=1&params=oppon|CHW|handbr01|pitch|AB|

7 minutes ago, Ben Waffleson said:

Liam Hendriks and Brad Hand?

Jesus, this is how the lunacy starts with this fanbase. 

You hear two names mentioned and now they better get both or bust. 

THEY'RE STRUGGLING TO CLOSE THE DEAL FOR ONE GUY!

 

19 minutes ago, Springfield Soxfan said:

Hahn and Sox need to push issue and not get used by Hendriks for two months.  I would love to have him but don’t be a pawn.  Move on or give an ultimatum.  

We said this before - not only do deadlines not work, they are disrespectful to the agent and the player. 

If you put contract offers out, and you retract them because someone else accepted your offer and you don't need the player any more that's one thing. But you can't say "Sign this by January 10 or we'll walk away" because if you don't have a closer signed on January 11, and they come back and say "we'll accept", they know you'll say yes.

1 minute ago, HOFHurt35 said:

Jesus, this is how the lunacy starts with this fanbase. 

You hear two names mentioned and now they better get both or bust. 

THEY'RE STRUGGLING TO CLOSE THE DEAL FOR ONE GUY!

 

Yeah they can't afford both.  I'd be happy with either for sure.  Hendricks obviously #1. But I'd love a pivot to Hand as I think he is in tier 2 alone

2 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

Hasn't been that bad

https://www.baseball-reference.com/tools/split_stats.cgi?full=1&params=oppon|CHW|handbr01|pitch|AB|

Outside of that one outing against us where we got 4 runs off him, that rain delay game, and the playoff game against the Yankees, Hand was really really good.

 

 

When did Vinnie Duber become such a puppet. Wow is this a bad tweet. White Sox want to cherry pick stats and make you believe that Hendriks is the worse of the three.

2 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said:

Jesus, this is how the lunacy starts with this fanbase. 

You hear two names mentioned and now they better get both or bust. 

THEY'RE STRUGGLING TO CLOSE THE DEAL FOR ONE GUY!

 

Who said both? Relax. 

Was implying that they had interest in both. Your sounding like the loon here.

1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

We said this before - not only do deadlines not work, they are disrespectful to the agent and the player. 

If you put contract offers out, and you retract them because someone else accepted your offer and you don't need the player any more that's one thing. But you can't say "Sign this by January 10 or we'll walk away" because if you don't have a closer signed on January 11, and they come back and say "we'll accept", they know you'll say yes.

I do think you can say, hey we want you bad and we'd love to get it done by january 10.  If it doesn't we are going to actively pursue other options, and if still not filled, we'd love to have you have that date. We just want to let you know that january 11th we will actively pursue others".. And they would get the message, if they believe you.

1 minute ago, Ben Waffleson said:

Who said both? Relax. 

Was implying that they had interest in both. Your sounding like the loon here.

You literally said : "Liam Hendriks and Brad Hand?"

Just now, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

I do think you can say, hey we want you bad and we'd love to get it done by january 10.  If it doesn't we are going to actively pursue other options, and if still not filled, we'd love to have you have that date. We just want to let you know that january 11th we will actively pursue others".. And they would get the message, if they believe you.

That's fair. It's believable. It's also not a hard deadline where "we're pulling our offer and stopping our interest in you so that the fans don't have to talk about this any more". 

Hendriks's side right now knows that teams have other options other than him. But he also does. He probably has 3 or 4 teams right now that will sign him to $35 million deals, but he wants $50 million and is willing to wait for a team to bid up into that range.  If one team falls out because they've signed Hand, he can still sign the next comparable deal. 

Just now, HOFHurt35 said:

You literally said : "Liam Hendriks and Brad Hand?"

And you implied that means we were getting both.

 

 

I'd love to have Hendriks, but my guess is I won't lose any sleep over the Sox missing out on him if he's getting anything more than like 3/$36M, which he will.  

1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said:

I'd love to have Hendriks, but my guess is I won't lose any sleep over the Sox missing out on him if he's getting anything more than like 3/$36M, which he will.  

Thats why I understand the Brad Hand link. He had 10.5m left and went completely unclaimed. You have to imagine hes gonna cost >8-9m