July 9, 20214 yr Cease is a decent SP4 at this point. He figures to be around for a couple more years at least and still has upside. We don't really know yet how to evaluate sticky stuff and whether some workable guidelines might be reached. It's a holding pattern situation right now. I am more disappointed with our Ace Gio.
July 9, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Everyone's not going to get worse by the same factor. Some pitchers it will affect more than others, some will barely be affected, and some will completely suck after the ban. But why will he be impacted more?
July 9, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: But why will he be impacted more? I'm not necessarily saying he will, but I'd think that guys with iffy command to begin with would be affected more. Cease falls into that category, as does Giolito. Mods, could we move this into the "sticky substances" thread? Thanks. Edited July 9, 20214 yr by Jack Parkman
July 9, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, DirtySox said: Are there any rumors here? Or just lots of derailment? Same shit, different day.
July 9, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Jack Parkman said: I do not, I think Cease has more value than Pederson, just because of the team control and stuff. I completely understand viewing Cease as a 26 year old failed prospect with a great arm though. However, if team control and stuff were all that mattered, then prospects would never get traded. The Sox aren't trading Cease anyway. They have enough problems in their rotation over the next few years. Ok. But that was the question.
July 10, 20214 yr 7 hours ago, Green Line said: I don't want any more Cubs. No loser mojo on this team. Cubs have a decent BP unexpectedly . They have 3 or 4 guys from the pen they may move. Kimbrel is obviously the prize but they had 6 no name guys pitching well. Wouldn't mind checking those guys out, Maples (Last pitched for Cubs 6/15 , on rehab assignment now, not doing great), Chafin, Thompson, Winkler, Tepera, Wieck (on the IL with irregular heartbeat after having earlier heart problems in the spring.) Edited July 10, 20214 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
July 10, 20214 yr 9 hours ago, chw42 said: They had to be joking right? Jeee-zuss. Why don’t we throw in Yoan and Tim while we’re at it, so we can acquire the coveted Joc Pederson. Luis Robert, too. I mean, that Pederson is coveted, man.
July 10, 20214 yr 9 hours ago, Sleepy Harold said: Although this is just a proposal from a caller on the Score, it's comically bad and figured it should be shared if anyone is looking for a good laugh this afternoon. Oh my god I finally listened to this.
July 10, 20214 yr Wait professional broadcasters think a joc pederson rental is worth Dylan cease.....both of them and an idiot caller
July 28, 20214 yr On 7/9/2021 at 11:39 PM, bmags said: Oh my god I finally listened to this. https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/teams/467/ Regardless of what folks feel of the above linked website, it's far more accurate than most discussion points on talk radio. Bernstein has become the wind sock, his partner isn't any better. Dylan Cease $50.2M vs. Joc Pederson ($0.8M).
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