2 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Either Hernandez dramatically improved after his start vs. Detroit where he gave up 6 runs in 4 innings or we just straight up suck on offense. Before Hernandez faced us last week his numbers were complete crap. 

I think this is a bit different than getting shutdown by KC's other mediocre starters. Hernandez has an elite strikeout rate, can hit 100, and he at least throws 4 pitches. Guys like this are going to dominate even very good lineups sometimes.

lol Lucas...

Good lord this is ugly

Hang em and bang em.

Giolito wearing it tonight.

If this is Lucas without his good slider, then yikes. 

Just now, SoxAce said:

Giolito wearing it tonight.

Put in Garcia for Yoan or Timmy and give them a modified breather

Our ace

1 minute ago, SoxAce said:

Giolito wearing it tonight.

This is joke man. This has been a very disappointing season for him. Too many meltdowns and too many games where he is gassed early. 

Yea Collins isn’t great but tonight is not on him. Gio is leaving everything up in the zone. 

5 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Either Hernandez dramatically improved after his start vs. Detroit where he gave up 6 runs in 4 innings or we just straight up suck on offense. Before Hernandez faced us last week his numbers were complete crap. 

I'm sure fans said that about Cease last year when he had his sporadic dominant game. Hernandez has very good stuff, just hasn't put it together yet. But guys with his kind of stuff who hasn't quite mastered it yet will have a game like this from time to time.

2 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

Giolito wearing it tonight.

He's worn it a few too many times this season. No excuse, he needs to be WAY better. 

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Good lord this is ugly

I guess we can't take bumslaying for granted. After today Cease will have better FIP than Giolito and maybe ERA too.

What a disappointment Lucas has been. 

6 runs in just over 3 innings out there against a garbage Royals team. I don't care who's on the goddamn mound, that's just inexcusable. 

The regression must stop. 

Woo hoo Matt Foster is warming up he'll stifle these Royals 

1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I guess we can't take bumslaying for granted. After today Cease will have better FIP than Giolito and maybe ERA too.

Cease's FIP is gonna be half a run lower after tonight. This is probably Gio's worst start in a long time. 

Hopefully Giolito struggling a bit this season will at least make him signing an extension more likely to happen.

2 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

I'm sure fans said that about Cease last year when he had his sporadic dominant game. Hernandez has very good stuff, just hasn't put it together yet. But guys with his kind of stuff who hasn't quite mastered it yet will have a game like this from time to time.

Like the last time against the White Sox? 

1 minute ago, chw42 said:

If this is Lucas without his good slider, then yikes. 

Why do Collins/lucas still calling for sliders tonight? It’s been a gopher ball barrage and has been beyond Salvador Perez.  We would normally say don’t let Salvador beat us, but Salvador has only accounted for 2 runs out of 6.

Something tells me that Giolito doesn’t have it tonight

Just now, hankchifan said:

Why do Collins/lucas still calling for sliders tonight? It’s been a gopher ball barrage and has been beyond Salvador Perez.  We would normally say don’t let Salvador beat us, but Salvador has only accounted for 2 runs out of 6.

Lucas knows he can't just be a fastball/change-up guy without the goop. That's why his slider and curve usage have gone way up since June 23rd.

That's one of the worst missed calls I've seen all year.

Perez does his pitchers no favors as a framer. Great player, but he's so overrated on defense

Just now, maxjusttyped said:

Hopefully Giolito struggling a bit this season will at least make him signing an extension more likely to happen.

Between Rodon, Giolito and Kopech... the 2nd and 3rd starters for a playoff series are becoming question marks.  Yet it's really hard to trust Cease, although he might actually end up retaining the best stuff at season's end. 

Of course, some of it's too much familiarity with Giolito on the part of KC, but seemingly hasn't impacted Hernandez. 

Just now, maxjusttyped said:

That's one of the worst missed calls I've seen all year.

Perez does his pitchers no favors as a framer. Great player, but he's so overrated on defense

Why is a strike call 100% on the catcher? 

Just now, caulfield12 said:

Between Rodon, Giolito and Kopech... the 2nd and 3rd starters for a playoff series are becoming question marks.  Yet it's really hard to trust Cease, although he might actually end up retaining the best stuff at season's end. 

Of course, some of it's too much familiarity with Giolito on the part of KC, but seemingly hasn't impacted Hernandez. 

If Giolito and Rodon are serious question marks, then imagine how every other team except the Dodgers is feeling about their playoff rotation