September 9, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, BrianAnderson said: If he still can't get a hit with RISP and its now October? Then bring in a pinch hitter if it's necessary. 17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: If he is still on the struggle bus in the playoffs, you mix and match with him as needed Except time isn’t exactly on your side in the postseason. I’m not sure we have the luxury of letting him fail in big spots in the playoffs. Don’t get me wrong, I still think he’s the best option all things considered. It’s not an ideal situation, but you just hope he can start putting things together before the calendar flips to October. If there’s no real signs of improvement by the final week of the regular season, I think you have to start limiting his role.
September 9, 20214 yr It's clear that because of injuries, Vaughn was rushed into MLB. I believe that next year Vaughn should start the season at Birmingham or Charlotte. If he hits well down there, bring him back up and see if he's ready for MLB then. I think Vaughn still has a chance to be a slightly above average ML hitter some day, but he should be playing first base.
September 9, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, Jerry McNertney said: It's clear that because of injuries, Vaughn was rushed into MLB. I believe that next year Vaughn should start the season at Birmingham or Charlotte. If he hits well down there, bring him back up and see if he's ready for MLB then. I think Vaughn still has a chance to be a slightly above average ML hitter some day, but he should be playing first base. Are you serious with this? You would like to see Andrew start in Birmingham next year? This is lunacy.
September 9, 20214 yr I wouldn't mind seeing Leury platoon with Andrew out there once TA gets healthy again but the fact is, you have to ride him and hope he gets out of this funk he's in. Luis did manage to get out of the slump for the very brief playoff series last year. Maybe Vaughn does the same. Although, once Engel does get back and if Sheets continues to put up quality at bats, I don't mind seeing Engel and Sheets starting over Vaughn.
September 9, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Jerry McNertney said: It's clear that because of injuries, Vaughn was rushed into MLB. I believe that next year Vaughn should start the season at Birmingham or Charlotte. If he hits well down there, bring him back up and see if he's ready for MLB then. I think Vaughn still has a chance to be a slightly above average ML hitter some day, but he should be playing first base. lmao
September 9, 20214 yr 5 hours ago, Stinky Stanky said: It's not affecting him in the field. But he needs to sit some more. He's lost at bat. Our fanbase is obsessed with resting/sitting players as cures for struggles. I still say as much batting practice as they take, rest is overrated. I still think Vaughn and Sheets will be OK. I guess there's a chance they could turn into Yermin, but I'm not so sure rest is the answer. Yes it's annoying when he and Sheets both turn into instant outs, but I'd quit stressing over sitting guys. If Sox manager and hitting coach and scouts think he's still "ready" for the bigs and still has the tools, let him hit. I think it'll be interesting in the postseason when adrenaline takes control and some of these guys either fail miserably or rake the ball all over the field and over the fence. It's so easy to say a guy should sit after they have a pathetic game or four. p.s. has nothing to do with the thread, but once again we see why Jerry doesn't like to sign pitchers to lucrative deals. Kuechel appears done. He had fairly good stuff last night and still four runs and was hard hit from the fourth til sixth. Ugh. Even Dallas is only a 4-5 inning guy now. Edited September 9, 20214 yr by greg775
September 9, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Are you serious with this? You would like to see Andrew start in Birmingham next year? This is lunacy. You see in MLB The Show, in GM mode, I can do this and it doesn't effect my players because they aren't real. I won 135 games this year. This should also work in real baseball.
September 10, 20214 yr Everyone needs to settle down with the extreme solutions. MLB caliber players go through really bad slumps sometimes - Paul Konerko had a .568 OPS first half in 2003 - and that was 4 years into his career.
September 10, 20214 yr Would you rather have AV slumping NOW or September 27th? Stop over-reacting. He'll be back to mid-season form come October...
September 10, 20214 yr 19 hours ago, RibbieRubarb said: You see in MLB The Show, in GM mode, I can do this and it doesn't effect my players because they aren't real. I won 135 games this year. This should also work in real baseball. Tony La Russa once sent me to the bench in The Show - and I'm convinced he sent me to AAA - because I didn't draw a walk in two weeks. I was hitting .380 and led the team in homers and RBIs. It all comes back to Tony.
September 10, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Greg Hibbard said: Everyone needs to settle down with the extreme solutions. MLB caliber players go through really bad slumps sometimes - Paul Konerko had a .568 OPS first half in 2003 - and that was 4 years into his career. He had also played through a broken foot down the stretch in 2002 and was still suffering pain from it. I would very much oppose Vaughn playing through a severe injury right now.
September 10, 20214 yr You can also peak at his exit velocities and how it seems like the harder he hits the all lately, it is more likely to be an out. 9/9 102.3 out 9/8 96.5 out 9/8 100.3 out 9/7 99.3 out
September 10, 20214 yr It might be getting too late in the season for AVaughn to make the adjustments necessary to hit the better RH pitchers consistently. I'm not suggesting Vaughn hasn't or can't hit RH pitching, but maybe there are better alternatives at this point like Sheets against RH pitching. The way the entire team is hitting lately, it may not matter how Vaughn is deployed. There are a few guys who are in hitting slumps right now and other than Abreu and Grandal to some extent, no one is getting the clutch hit we need to stay in some of these close games.
September 10, 20214 yr 4 hours ago, ThatBallHitDeep_WAYBack said: Would you rather have AV slumping NOW or September 27th? Stop over-reacting. He'll be back to mid-season form come October... Didn't realize it was an either/or situation. Problem solved.
September 10, 20214 yr Let him play and figure it out. Maybe occasionally sit him against a good eighty pitcher.
September 10, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Snopek said: Didn't realize it was an either/or situation. Problem solved. You're a numbskull.
September 10, 20214 yr On 9/9/2021 at 2:00 PM, RibbieRubarb said: You see in MLB The Show, in GM mode, I can do this and it doesn't effect my players because they aren't real. I won 135 games this year. This should also work in real baseball. Sounds like you should UP the difficulty.
September 10, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, ThatBallHitDeep_WAYBack said: You're a numbskull. I'm well aware of that, but what does that have to do with my response to your post?
September 10, 20214 yr On 9/9/2021 at 10:10 AM, Kyyle23 said: IL really not that necessary. Just start Goodwin or Sheets and leave him on the bench for a little while Preferably Engel if he is available. We need to have better defense in the outfield. Goodwin has been exposed too many times as a horrible OF. He should be relegated to occasional DH and pinch hitter against righties, but please keep him out of the outfield.
September 10, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, ThatBallHitDeep_WAYBack said: You're a numbskull. I haven't seen "numbskull" used in a long time. Doing it old school!
September 11, 20214 yr On 9/9/2021 at 12:14 PM, Jerry McNertney said: It's clear that because of injuries, Vaughn was rushed into MLB. I believe that next year Vaughn should start the season at Birmingham or Charlotte. If he hits well down there, bring him back up and see if he's ready for MLB then. I think Vaughn still has a chance to be a slightly above average ML hitter some day, but he should be playing first base. You are out of your mind. Vaughn is going to be a key factor on the Sox and will be an All Star soon
September 11, 20214 yr On 9/9/2021 at 12:14 PM, Jerry McNertney said: It's clear that because of injuries, Vaughn was rushed into MLB. I believe that next year Vaughn should start the season at Birmingham or Charlotte. If he hits well down there, bring him back up and see if he's ready for MLB then. I think Vaughn still has a chance to be a slightly above average ML hitter some day, but he should be playing first base. Yeah! Get that year of control back! Not
September 11, 20214 yr 18 hours ago, ThatBallHitDeep_WAYBack said: You're a numbskull. 16 hours ago, zisk said: I haven't seen "numbskull" used in a long time. Doing it old school!
September 11, 20214 yr On 9/9/2021 at 1:14 PM, Jerry McNertney said: It's clear that because of injuries, Vaughn was rushed into MLB. I believe that next year Vaughn should start the season at Birmingham or Charlotte. If he hits well down there, bring him back up and see if he's ready for MLB then. I think Vaughn still has a chance to be a slightly above average ML hitter some day, but he should be playing first base. Next year I would expect AV to be something of a monster with the bat. This year will work out great for his long-term development.
September 11, 20214 yr he is slumping hard - but its not surprising when you think of the number of games he is used to playing in his life.
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