March 4, 20224 yr Author 2 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: I'm just looking at the Forbes valuation of 1.26B, would definitely have thought that it would be more than Arizona Phoenix is the 5th largest City in the US, Detroit is 27th
March 4, 20224 yr 11 minutes ago, Texsox said: Paupers compared to the Waltons or Bezos. Plus if the owners published a list of the wealthiest players it wouldn't matter. Love the players chipping in to help. Great move. And publicizing it was a nice PR move. The obvious difference being those two actually created something while all baseball owners did was buy into a legal monoply.
March 4, 20224 yr 6 hours ago, Quin said: Damn, y'all didn't even get a pizza party? Nope haha. 5 hours ago, bmags said: Well what kind of chips were they? Some Jay's originals lmao Edited March 4, 20224 yr by ScooterMcGee
March 4, 20224 yr 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Phoenix is the 5th largest City in the US, Detroit is 27th Other than the meaning and scope of the First Amendment and historical/geographical crime rates, can't think of anything that gives rise to more common misconceptions than city size. Most people who haven't looked at a current list of the largest U.S. cities have their minds blown quickly (San Antonio is 7th and Miami is 41st?! San Diego is 8th and Cleveland is 54th?!) Anyway...I need baseball to come back Edited March 4, 20224 yr by 35thstreetswarm
March 4, 20224 yr 13 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: $1 million to purchase publicity in their favor, smart move. Yup, smart PR move, but this really doesn’t help those impacted all that much. If there are 1,000 people in need of assistance, this is basically $1k/person. Nice gesture but not going to move the needle a ton.
March 4, 20224 yr 15 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: The obvious difference being those two actually created something while all baseball owners did was buy into a legal monoply. Sam Walton died in 1992.
March 4, 20224 yr Oh look, the owners are creating a fund for impacted employees. The PR battle wages on why we fans stay losing! Edited March 4, 20224 yr by Chicago White Sox
March 4, 20224 yr 36 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Oh look, the players are starting a fund to take care of stadium staff screwed over by the lockout, while the owners are squabbling with labor over minuscule costs like meal money. But the players are the greedy ones and ownership deserves all of the spoils because of "risk"... Good PR.
March 4, 20224 yr 20 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said: Other than the meaning and scope of the First Amendment and historical/geographical crime rates, can't think of anything that gives rise to more common misconceptions than city size. Most people who haven't looked at a current list of the largest U.S. cities have their minds blown quickly (San Antonio is 7th and Miami is 41st?! San Diego is 8th and Cleveland is 54th?!) Anyway...I need baseball to come back Yeah it's kind of a slight of hand. In terms of baseball markets, better to look at things like "metro areas". But even those have limitations. That said, Miami - Ft Lauderdale - Palm beach metro area is 8th. Phx metro area is 11th, Detroit 14th.
March 4, 20224 yr 26 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: The obvious difference being those two actually created something while all baseball owners did was buy into a legal monoply. I would bet most owners had businesses prior to buying into the legal monopoly.
March 4, 20224 yr Author 5 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Yeah we were totally setting up a fund, so weird that we hadn't told you guys right...
March 4, 20224 yr It's a PR battle they are losing. We still have all the businesses that surround stadiums that are impacted. The reason teams receive such massive tax breaks and incentives.
March 4, 20224 yr 8 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Yeah we were totally setting up a fund, so weird that we hadn't told you guys right... What’s also funny is why wouldn’t the owners just pay their employees? A fund only makes sense if it’s coming from a 3rd party and not the employer.
March 4, 20224 yr 35 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: The obvious difference being those two actually created something while all baseball owners did was buy into a legal monoply. So why haven't you bought in of that's all it takes?
March 4, 20224 yr 26 minutes ago, bmags said: Yeah it's kind of a slight of hand. In terms of baseball markets, better to look at things like "metro areas". But even those have limitations. That said, Miami - Ft Lauderdale - Palm beach metro area is 8th. Phx metro area is 11th, Detroit 14th. This is true. I wasn't really commenting on the relevance of city size to the size of actual baseball markets (i.e. "staying on topic.") Edited March 4, 20224 yr by 35thstreetswarm
March 4, 20224 yr 5 minutes ago, Texsox said: So why haven't you bought in of that's all it takes? My daddy wasn't a crook.
March 4, 20224 yr 3 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said: This is true. I wasn't really commenting on the relevance of city size to the size of actual baseball markets (e.g. "staying on topic.") Well you are walking into my favorite argument of the single most coddled franchise in baseball, the St Louis Cardinals.
March 4, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, bmags said: Well you are walking into my favorite argument of the single most coddled franchise in baseball, the St Louis Cardinals. You mean they of the 72nd largest city and 21st largest metro area?
March 4, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, Quin said: Do you want the workers to have no money? Huh? My whole point from months ago was that all this is going to do is hurt all the ancillary activities and industries that depend on & support the game. Shame on Tony for trying to claim he and the players are on the side of JoeBlow’s support company. Total BS. How about all the millions up for grabs every spring for the local diners and tourist areas? Hero Tony!
March 4, 20224 yr 52 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: Huh? My whole point from months ago was that all this is going to do is hurt all the ancillary activities and industries that depend on & support the game. Shame on Tony for trying to claim he and the players are on the side of JoeBlow’s support company. Total BS. How about all the millions up for grabs every spring for the local diners and tourist areas? Hero Tony! Yes, it's a real shame the owners locked out the players and are negatively impacted so many people with their unrestrained greed.
March 4, 20224 yr 17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: $230M always felt to me like a good middle ground between the two sides. If the Pirates, A's, & Marlins were on board, that should bode well.
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