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The MLB lockout is lifted!

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If they can’t put it in the end zone today, fuck ‘em all.

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At this stage they need to just take the list of numbers and either split the difference, or give each side half of their asks.  If they fuck this up, baseball will get burned to the ground, no matter how hard owners have tried to set this up for failure.

Anybody have any other ideas as to what bullshit they will pull out of their butts next that will delay this even further?

2 minutes ago, ScooterMcGee said:

Anybody have any other ideas as to what bullshit they will pull out of their butts next that will delay this even further?

I'm sure there will be something. 

2 minutes ago, ScooterMcGee said:

Anybody have any other ideas as to what bullshit they will pull out of their butts next that will delay this even further?

The biggest gap on the financial side seems to be the non-arb pool.  MLB's latest was $40M flat through 5 years while MLBPA's starts at $65M and rises to $85M.  I anticipate several back and forths on this today, and we'll be waiting until the next imaginary deadline.  This could be the one thing that keeps a deal from being made today.  Unless they want to argue about something else we haven't heard about yet.

2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

 

And here is where we need both sides to split the difference.  Both get to say they won certain things.  Sign on the dotted line, lift the lockout, and get back to work. 

1 minute ago, Tnetennba said:

And here is where we need both sides to split the difference.  Both get to say they won certain things.  Sign on the dotted line, lift the lockout, and get back to work. 

And watch the free agent and trade frenzy start.

How many teams have deals in place, waiting to press the Go button?

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And Jeff Passan just got hacked.  What a day.

4 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

And here is where we need both sides to split the difference.  Both get to say they won certain things.  Sign on the dotted line, lift the lockout, and get back to work. 

The biggest issue seems to be the union wants an increasing pool of money for pre-arb and the owners want a flat rate. Can't really split that.

3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

And Jeff Passan just got hacked.  What a day.

I bet it was Steve Cohen.

2 minutes ago, ptatc said:

The biggest issue seems to be the union wants an increasing pool of money for pre-arb and the owners want a flat rate. Can't really split that.

Sure you can. If part counts against CBT but not all, you can give players numbers they want and give some cushion to owners. 

Even 65m divided over 30 clubs is about 2m and change. If they agreed to 50m rising to 70m and it would count as 1m against CBT for each team, the players are basically redistributing about half of their own money to pay for it and owners ate paying other half in new money.

 

I’m not sure my body is ready for next 72 hours.  Why did that have to be when all the conference tournaments are rocking. 

I love Keith Law

@Orn L. Yes. Manfred said when he got the Commissioner's job that he was determined to get an international draft. Now they're throwing it into CBA talks like it was an afterthought. He's always wanted this, and the reason is that it saves owners money. You should assume anything the owners present in CBA talks is there to reduce their spending on players, and work backwards from there.

 

2 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

 

So they're not close to a deal. Great. 

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