April 9, 20224 yr 3 hours ago, ptatc said: Dang, I knew pitching injuries and limitations would be an issue with the shortened spring training but this is getting ridiculous. Baseball wasn't meant to be played in 40 degree weather.
April 9, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, ptatc said: Could mean a lengthy absence. If they just held him back it a better sign than if he threw a pitch and had to stop. Sounds like its a fairly mild one but no telling for sure. Even a mild one is probably missing a start. There is no shortage of doom and gloom injury experts.
April 9, 20224 yr 26 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: Baseball wasn't meant to be played in 40 degree weather. And football is different how? Cross country races for 8 miles in November isn't? All athletes deal with cold, baseball is one if the least physically stressful.
April 9, 20224 yr 27 minutes ago, ptatc said: And football is different how? Cross country races for 8 miles in November isn't? All athletes deal with cold, baseball is one if the least physically stressful. This made no sense at all.
April 9, 20224 yr 31 minutes ago, ptatc said: And football is different how? Cross country races for 8 miles in November isn't? All athletes deal with cold, baseball is one if the least physically stressful. Pitching seems physically stressful due to it's unnaturalness.
April 9, 20224 yr Just now, SleepyWhiteSox said: Pitching seems physically stressful due to it's unnaturalness. That is true is any weather. It's not a natural motion.
April 9, 20224 yr And everyone was worried about Rodon getting injured . Mr. Play-It-Safe was afraid to fly He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids goodbye He waited his whole damn life to take that flight And as the plane crashed down He thought, "Well, isn't this nice?" And isn't it ironic? Don't you think?
April 9, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, ron883 said: Grade 2 hip flexor tear? All reports I read said abdominals not hip.
April 9, 20224 yr Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: And everyone was worried about Rodon getting injured . Mr. Play-It-Safe was afraid to fly He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids goodbye He waited his whole damn life to take that flight And as the plane crashed down He thought, "Well, isn't this nice?" And isn't it ironic? Don't you think? More for the season ending type not the miss a few start type.
April 9, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, kitekrazy said: There is no shortage of doom and gloom injury experts. That's the way it's been lately.
April 9, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, ptatc said: All reports I read said abdominals not hip. Grade 2 transverse abdominis tear
April 9, 20224 yr Just now, ron883 said: Grade 2 transverse abdominis tear That would be an odd one. The transverse abdominus is more of a slow twitch postural muscle as its fibers go straight side to side Injuries typically happen to the internal or external oblique that are more the fast twitch power muscle for flexion and rotation.
April 9, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, ptatc said: More for the season ending type not the miss a few start type. Except that Lynn is gone for 2 months and Crochet for the whole year while we still don't know about Gio . Kelly for how long ? So far I haven't seen anything for a few starts or even a week. When you are afraid to make moves, then play it safe moves , cheap moves like stocking up the BP it comes back to bite you in the ass.
April 9, 20224 yr 8 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Except that Lynn is gone for 2 months and Crochet for the whole year while we still don't know about Gio . Kelly for how long ? So far I haven't seen anything for a few starts or even a week. When you are afraid to make moves, then play it safe moves , cheap moves like stocking up the BP it comes back to bite you in the ass. That's an odd thing to say, considering the bullpen blew it today
April 9, 20224 yr 10 minutes ago, ScooterMcGee said: That's an odd thing to say, considering the bullpen blew it today I said a few different things so I don't follow what you think is odd.
April 9, 20224 yr 19 minutes ago, ScooterMcGee said: That's an odd thing to say, considering the bullpen blew it today The bullpen failure wasn't related to this offseason... unless it's signing an injured Kelly. In general, we keep playing on the margins and are scared to death of big moves like Suzuki, Conforto and extending Gio without the club working in an advantageous clause whereas other teams are more flexible just to get the player in a uniform. And before Robertson, we went fifteen years without overpaying closers, other than Koch for one year. Yet very little to show for 3-4 years of targeting big arms in the draft mostly for the pen. Edited April 9, 20224 yr by caulfield12
April 9, 20224 yr 44 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Except that Lynn is gone for 2 months and Crochet for the whole year while we still don't know about Gio . Kelly for how long ? So far I haven't seen anything for a few starts or even a week. When you are afraid to make moves, then play it safe moves , cheap moves like stocking up the BP it comes back to bite you in the ass. I don't think they are afraid to make moves. It's fitting whatever moves they make under the CBT and to field a well rounded team. I agree they should have improved the rotation. But its not afraid to sign Rodon with his injury history, it's a cascaded decision based on the amount of money to pay him and the possibility of injury
April 9, 20224 yr 21 minutes ago, ptatc said: I don't think they are afraid to make moves. It's fitting whatever moves they make under the CBT and to field a well rounded team. I agree they should have improved the rotation. But its not afraid to sign Rodon with his injury history, it's a cascaded decision based on the amount of money to pay him and the possibility of injury Other than the Kimbrel trade and signing Luis Robert... what "risky" moves has Hahn actually made? The Big 3 trades were a foregone conclusion...resulting from the front office being unable to patchwork a team together around stars and scrubs with a mid tier payroll from 2012-2016. The counter argument of course is the 2005 approach spreading the money across the roster and Dunn, Danks (injury/ineffectiveness on a $65 million deal) and then that Robertson/LaRoche/Cabrera/Shark cycle leading to oblivion. Basically, too many big contracts without matching production sink the team. Edited April 9, 20224 yr by caulfield12
April 9, 20224 yr 11 hours ago, Tony said: Gio misses any sort of significant time, the entire division is up for grabs. This pitching staff is going to get WORKED with Keuchel, Velasquez and Lopez getting starts..... The way our SPs are falling that will be the 1-3 of the rotation soon.
April 9, 20224 yr 9 hours ago, ptatc said: I don't think they are afraid to make moves. It's fitting whatever moves they make under the CBT and to field a well rounded team. I agree they should have improved the rotation. But its not afraid to sign Rodon with his injury history, it's a cascaded decision based on the amount of money to pay him and the possibility of injury I think they are. Starting pitchers were readily available all off season. They had plenty of CBT space when the off season started. The biggest loss of the off season was losing Rodon's production therefore it should be the 1st guy you replace and that doesn't mean with Kopech. They were afraid to trade for anyone too since they keep getting burned when giving up youngsters. I don't know if they are just hanging onto guys who haven't established the type of value they think they will eventually be worth , or if they are trying to keep the window open longer, or if nobody wants our prospects or other teams just keep asking for guys from the 26 . Manaea seemed obtainable but by that time they weren't willing to add another $10M.
April 9, 20224 yr 11 hours ago, kitekrazy said: Baseball wasn't meant to be played in 40 degree weather. Exercise wasn't meant to prevent injury. Ask Gio.
April 9, 20224 yr I'm prepared to hear that this will be a 6 week injury. Anything less will be a pleasant surprise.
April 9, 20224 yr 5 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: I'm prepared to hear that this will be a 6 week injury. Anything less will be a pleasant surprise. And that would be a major problem for us. Meanwhile, Manaea was excellent last night. Unfortunately, the failures to build a halfway decent farm system are costing us heavily right now.
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