April 10, 20224 yr 8 minutes ago, Two-Gun Pete said: According to SPOTRAC, the average MLB org has 7 rostered SPs on their 40 man. The SOX, in their desperation, finally got to 7 SPs when they last-minuted their way into geezing geezer Johnny Cueto. Until Lynn and Giolito are healthy and productive, these stupid ideas of trading Vaughn will continue to pop up. It didn't have to be this way, but then, pre-injured Joe Kelly. I just hope that RH/KW aren't stupid enough to take the bait at some point, and actually trade away Vaughn. Giolito, Lynn, Cease, Kopech, Keuchel, Velesquez, & Lopez is seven starters.
April 10, 20224 yr I think that Andrew Vaughn is one player the Sox shouldn't trade, Make some other deal.
April 10, 20224 yr 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Giolito, Lynn, Cease, Kopech, Keuchel, Velesquez, & Lopez is seven starters. not sure if serious
April 10, 20224 yr 33 minutes ago, fathom said: Didn’t say I would do it for Montas, but he’s absolutely not untouchable for me. fair enough, but the Sox are abysmal in getting value for prospect trades for old dudes. These guys should learn to just say no, and try other avenues.
April 10, 20224 yr 4 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said: not sure if serious The issue wasn’t quantity is the point, but that we were lacking another quality starter to push Dallas to the 6th spot.
April 10, 20224 yr 37 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Giolito, Lynn, Cease, Kopech, Keuchel, Velesquez, & Lopez is seven starters. Velasquez is indeed a starter... ...In La Liga Mexicana de Beisbol. That aside, Spotrac has him as the 4th-highest paid RP in the roster, which I used as my source. Either way, he'll have to be DFA'ed at some point. Edited April 10, 20224 yr by Two-Gun Pete
April 10, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, Two-Gun Pete said: According to SPOTRAC, the average MLB org has 7 rostered SPs on their 40 man. The SOX, in their desperation, finally got to 7 SPs when they last-minuted their way into geezing geezer Johnny Cueto. Until Lynn and Giolito are healthy and productive, these stupid ideas of trading Vaughn will continue to pop up. It didn't have to be this way, but then, pre-injured Joe Kelly. I just hope that RH/KW aren't stupid enough to take the bait at some point, and actually trade away Vaughn. That geezing geezer is only 36.
April 10, 20224 yr Marketing department. Let's start a rumor to sell tickets. Make it seem like we are going to sign some young talent. We need some ink and electrons.
April 10, 20224 yr 36 minutes ago, zisk said: That geezing geezer is only 36. So, a real spring chicken in MLB terms, amirite? He's in his prime. Just like Encarnacion, Eaton, Harrison, and Kelly. This team really goes for youth in their acquisitions.
April 10, 20224 yr 2 minutes ago, FoxForce2 said: If I were the A's I'd be interested in Vaughn too. Veronica?
April 10, 20224 yr 5 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: Glad to see Stone killing this. Even the Sox front office doesnt want to get fleeced like that.
April 10, 20224 yr Hope they're not dumb enough to do this...I'm still dealing with the pain of losing 8 years of Madrigal for a few weeks of the remains of Craig Kimbrel
April 10, 20224 yr I don't think Hahn has ever done a deal with the As without getting fleeced; and the As may not want to change precedent and do a deal without fleecing him, so I'll take a pass. But if they are serious about Montas, please scout a few of his starts first.
April 10, 20224 yr 7 hours ago, CentralChamps21 said: Who else does Oakland have aside from Montas that could help the Sox? Any decent OF who could push Eloy to DH? Laureano
April 10, 20224 yr I wish we had that extra year of service time. Now that he had a hot start, there's no way they can justify sending him down for a few weeks.
April 10, 20224 yr 4 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: I don't see him listed on their roster Suspended for another 25 plus games
April 10, 20224 yr My guess is that Hahn or an agent close with Sox leaked this. Basically - hey guys, get off my back. i checked in, this is what they wanted. it's not happening. I wonder what the Reds were asking for Gray. Sox should (And probably have) explore with the Marlins. That team has so much pitching depth its scary... Alcantara, Lopez, Rogers, Eleiser Hernandez, Luzardo, Meyer, Sixto Sanchez, Eury Perez, Edward Cabrera ... THATS NINE! DEEP! I'm not sure how you navigate the Cuban pipeline and Colas/Cespedes or their perceived value ... nor do I know what we could/would trade them ... but I'd quite literally take any single one of those guys. Based on what we need right of way + cost my wish list would be in this order: Eleiser Hernandez - probably one of the cheapest options to acquire and like his stuff. They can just slot in no issue internally Pablo Lopez - they were known to have him on the table in offseason. He's legit and would slot in right away on par with Cease or so Sixto Sanchez - roll of dice. maybe buy low candidate. his shoulder is really troubling, but if healthy he can slot in as an immediate impact arm. You just can't have any expectations of innings from him which is kinda what we need right now. Rogers - he's expensive. he's good. Alcantara - probably untouchable, that's why he's so low. I'd trade Vaugh for him .... and I wouldn't trade Vaughn for many. Eury Perez - he's Grayson Rodriguez ... he's 19? 20? He will be Jose Fernandez type household name soon. Hell, If the price was right I'd slot him right after Pablo Lopez ... he could probably be with the Sox by year end working in a Kopech type role last year Luzardo/Cabrera - i put them together. both have a wild streak. not the type of arm i want to rely on with where we are as a team. Meyer - he's great too, just costs a lot.
April 10, 20224 yr 2 minutes ago, he gone. said: My guess is that Hahn or an agent close with Sox leaked this. Basically - hey guys, get off my back. i checked in, this is what they wanted. it's not happening. I wonder what the Reds were asking for Gray. Sox should (And probably have) explore with the Marlins. That team has so much pitching depth its scary... Alcantara, Lopez, Rogers, Eleiser Hernandez, Luzardo, Meyer, Sixto Sanchez, Eury Perez, Edward Cabrera ... THATS NINE! DEEP! I'm not sure how you navigate the Cuban pipeline and Colas/Cespedes or their perceived value ... nor do I know what we could/would trade them ... but I'd quite literally take any single one of those guys. Based on what we need right of way + cost my wish list would be in this order: Eleiser Hernandez - probably one of the cheapest options to acquire and like his stuff. They can just slot in no issue internally Pablo Lopez - they were known to have him on the table in offseason. He's legit and would slot in right away on par with Cease or so Sixto Sanchez - roll of dice. maybe buy low candidate. his shoulder is really troubling, but if healthy he can slot in as an immediate impact arm. You just can't have any expectations of innings from him which is kinda what we need right now. Rogers - he's expensive. he's good. Alcantara - probably untouchable, that's why he's so low. I'd trade Vaugh for him .... and I wouldn't trade Vaughn for many. Eury Perez - he's Grayson Rodriguez ... he's 19? 20? He will be Jose Fernandez type household name soon. Hell, If the price was right I'd slot him right after Pablo Lopez ... he could probably be with the Sox by year end working in a Kopech type role last year Luzardo/Cabrera - i put them together. both have a wild streak. not the type of arm i want to rely on with where we are as a team. Meyer - he's great too, just costs a lot. Sixto - not an option, broken and hurt again Rogers/Alcantara - untouchable so not an option Eury - 2/3 years away and untouchable so not an option Luzardo/Cabrera/Meyer - would cost Vaughn so not really worth it Lopez - would probably cost close to Vaughn so not an option bc we don't have something to trade close to Vaughn's price Hernandez - the only feasible option to get help on SP side from the Marlins, but what could we trade.....Colas, Cespedes and Colson aren't going anywhere so im not sure what we could trade
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