Are you guys willing to accept that there was never a window at this point? I think I'm there. 

I'd fire Hahn and just blow it up at this point. 

None of the underperforming guys are showing any signs of getting out of it. 

Edited June 9, 20223 yr by Jack Parkman

Just now, Jack Parkman said:

Are you guys willing to accept that there was never a window at this point? I think I'm there. 

They were absolutely in contention last year until the team just lost their focus the last 40 games

51 minutes ago, fathom said:

Agreed, but it’s not exactly a solution to the problem.  It’s one of the few spots where they can legitimately try to push someone aside and upgrade.  We know they won’t do that with Grancada.

If you don't try it you never find out if it's a solution. I mean at this point it's either push Moncada to 2nd base or bring up Yolbert. It's not like Harrison's -.3 WAR is helping win any games.

I'll also add that the real solution could be Sosa and moving Yolbert up gets Sosa to AAA. Sosa has a better chance to make an impact since he hits for good power and Sanchez doesn't ,if he can adjust quickly put up good numbers at Charlotte. Sanchez has a good eye so if the contact is soft he could be just getting some 2 strike hits much the same way Madrigal did while still taking his share of walks.

Sosa has better numbers at Birmingham than Robert did in slightly more plate appearances.

Edited June 9, 20223 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

Moncada sucks 

0-4 for Yoan, just a great performance by him tonight.  Way to look at that pitch.

1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

Are you guys willing to accept that there was never a window at this point? I think I'm there. 

No, that window included the last two years.

 

Really hard to envision so many guys having career worst years as well

Sure. Why swing?

If Lynn doesn't return to form you have the Grandal and Lynn salaries really weighing on payroll...and missed your opportunity to trade Lynn as well.

Then Moncada and Jimenez, not to mention IL Kelly.  Pollock's player option, etc.  Abreu can't possibly return...maybe he asks to be traded to a contender in the weeks to come.

It's basically a tsunami of issues with no payroll flexibility or minor league Top 100 guys even if you wanted to throw them into the flames.

Sure Yoan take a nap .

Just now, Harry Chappas said:

Moncada sucks 

Amazing how much people still defend him

Moncada doesn't care. 

6-55, 16 K's in the last 15 games for the music video superstar

2 minutes ago, Heads22 said:

No, that window included the last two years.

 

Really hard to envision so many guys having career worst years as well

They were never good enough to win a championship the last two years. They were good, but not good enough. 

In fact, I think they only made the playoffs in 2021 because Minny and Cleveland had bad years. 

Edited June 9, 20223 yr by Jack Parkman

Just now, fathom said:

They were absolutely in contention last year until the team just lost their focus the last 40 games

And have never found it.....did they way the team was managed kill the edge?

Moncada a hard guy to root for 

Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Sure Yoan take a nap .

Has to save his energy for partying tonight 

2 minutes ago, Heads22 said:

 

 

They just said that it is hard to win with guys hitting below.200 in the 1 st, 3 rd and 5 th spots.  This line up tonight was a joke. A 70 yard punt.  Can we put TLR in the IL for mental injury?

Just now, Harry Chappas said:

And have never found it.....did they way the team was managed kill the edge?

Ever since the Mercedes incident, it seemed like they lost some of their swagger 

Just now, Jack Parkman said:

They were never good enough to win a championship the last two years. They were good, but not good enough. 

If only we could pinpoint some possible change before the 2021 season that may have made an appreciable difference

He might not be good at baseball but how many MLB players can say they make music videos??

1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

If you don't try it you never find out if it's a solution. I mean at this point it's either push Moncada to 2nd base or bring up Yolbert. It's not like Harrison's -.3 WAR is helping win any games.

The strange thing is the team is well below .500 with him not starting and a handful over with him.  And tonight is another example.  Guess that's also on Leary who always plays when Harrison doesn't.

Only 2yrs/47.6 mil guaranteed for Yo in 23-24

I wonder if moving Moncada to 2B would maybe wake him up or something?  Maybe standing behind the pitcher will give him a different perspective or something?  I don't know, but there's no way he should be starting over Burger at 3B anymore.

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

They were absolutely in contention last year until the team just lost their focus the last 40 games

You mean until Tony stopped caring and wanted everyone to get rested for the playoffs

7 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said:

He gets a lot of hate mail already and reads it. Get in line. 

I'm trying to get in line 

You seemed to offended by that.