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Giolito & Reynaldo to LAA. Update: Angels put on waivers

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  • jhonnydanks
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    None of this matters

  • Chicago White Sox
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    Very nice return.  @Balta1701 - You going to admit you were wrong about Lucas commanding a top 100 prospect?

  • Chicago White Sox
    Chicago White Sox

    We got a top 100 prospect for Giolito.  Isn’t that what most of the optimists were expecting?

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Wow. So it begins

1 minute ago, Sleepy Harold said:

 

 

 

Damn we posted it at the same time. Interesting the Angels got him. 

OMG Hahn made a trade with the wrong LA team ??

Confirmed via the radio postgame show.

Lucas sadly won't reach 1,000 strikeouts with the Sox.

Hahn will speak to reporters on AM 1000.

 

 

Edited by South Side Hit Men

Anyone know about the guys we got back?

Not gojng to pretend I know anything about what we got in return but is this Catcher any good?

Darn i thought Hahn was resigning after that awful loss.

2nd and 4th overall prospects for the Angels in the recently updated Baseball America rankings.  Quero is the 84th overall prospect per BA.

Quero is a legit bat, but his defense and game calling need work per BA.

Bush is a solid 4-5 starter potential.

Edited by CWSpalehoseCWS

Write-up on Quero:

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Ht: 5'11" | Wt: 170 | B-T: S-R

Age: 20

BA Grade/Risk: 50/High

Track Record: Quero emerged as a player to watch after shining with Cuba’s national team at the U-15 World Cup in Panama in 2018. The switch-hitting catcher signed with the Angels three years later in February 2021 for $200,000, five weeks before his 18th birthday. Quero made his pro debut in the Arizona Complex League that summer and quickly emerged as one of the league’s most intriguing prospects. He took that to another level in his full-season debut at Low-A Inland Empire in 2022, batting .312/.435/.530 with 17 home runs and 75 RBIs to win the California League MVP award. 

Scouting Report: Quero is firmly a bat-first catcher with a strong, sturdy 5-foot-11 frame. He has a good feel for the barrel and consistently makes hard contact from both sides of the plate with a short, flat swing. He is a disciplined hitter who rarely expands the zone and draws a large number of walks. Quero shows more selectivity from the right side while being more aggressive from the left side, where he shows off more power. He has above-average bat speed and has started to tap into his above-average raw power as he has matured physically, helping him project to be an above-average hitter who reaches 20-plus home runs. Quero has good defensive tools behind the plate with solid lateral movement and the ability to block balls in the dirt, but his receiving and game-calling need a lot of development to get to average. He has an average, accurate arm and threw out 25% of basestealers in his full-season debut. 

The Future: Quero’s bat makes him promising, but he’ll need to refine his catching technique to become an everyday backstop in the major leagues. He’ll be just 20 years old on Opening Day and has time to make the necessary improvements. 

Scouting Grades: Hitting: 55. Power: 50. Speed: 40. Fielding: 45. Arm: 50

 

1 minute ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

Quero is a legit bat, but his defense and game calling need work per BA.

Bush is a solid 4-5 starter potential.

Wow sounds like Soxtalk really overvalued our own guys again, huh.

Write-up on Bush:

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Ht: 6'6" | Wt: 240 | B-T: L-L

Age: 24

BA Grade/Risk: 45/Medium

Track Record: An unsigned 40th-round pick by the Royals out of high school, Bush began his college career at Washington State but transferred out after a poor freshman season and turnover on the Cougars’ coaching staff. He spent the shortened 2020 season at Central Arizona JC and returned to Division I with Saint Mary’s as a junior in 2021. Bush saw his velocity spike and control improve with the Gaels to fly up draft boards and was selected by the Angels in the second round, No. 45 overall, in the 2021 draft. He signed for an over-slot $1,747,500 and rose quickly to Double-A for his full-season debut in 2022, where he anchored a dominant Rocket City rotation and was selected to represent the Angels at the Futures Game. 

Scouting Report: Bush is a big, hulking lefthander at 6-foot-6 and 240 pounds. His four-pitch mix is headlined by an above-average fastball that sits 93-94 mph and touches 96 with sinking action out of his high, three-quarters arm slot. His best secondary offering is a sharp, plus slider in the mid 80s with a late vertical break that gets swings and misses. Bush manipulates the speed and break of his slider and uses it best going down and away from lefthanded hitters and to the back foot of righthanded ones. Bush can generate swings and misses with his fringy, slow curveball and he has a feel for an average, fading changeup, but both remain inconsistent. He is a sneaky-good athlete given his large frame and throws strikes with average control out of repeatable delivery. 

The Future: Bush’s four-pitch mix and ability to throw strikes give him a chance to settle in as a quality back-of-the-rotation starter. He is in position to make his major league debut with the Angels in mid-to-late 2023. 

Scouting Grades: Fastball: 55. Curveball: 45. Slider: 60. Changeup: 50. Control: 50

 

Angels no. 2 and 3 prospects: Nice.

Not so nice: Can Sox develop them? Did the Sox get enough? I'd have demanded one more body at least. Now I know the two Sox pitchers reek many times but they are 'name' players.

Not a negative Nancy but Angels win this trade cause we needed one more prospect to be called winners. Quero is 5-11, 170. Grandal is 6-2; Sal Perez 6-3. Our two new players definitely will advance to the majors which is a positive. See how they do when they get there.

 

Ha, MLB website had the Angels organization ranked 28 before the season started. I’m guessing these guys are turds.

I am interested to see the return on the rest of the rentals for this trade deadline and how it compares 

 

 

Just now, Bob Sacamano said:

Wow sounds like Soxtalk really overvalued our own guys again, huh.

We got a top 100 prospect for Giolito.  Isn’t that what most of the optimists were expecting?

1 minute ago, Milkman delivers said:

Ha, MLB website had the Angels organization ranked 28 before the season started. I’m guessing these guys are turds.

Bush has had a terrible season, but only 8 outings.  Quero’s stats last year were nice 

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1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Wow sounds like Soxtalk really overvalued our own guys again, huh.

Maybe. But Bush is a second-round pick of a good organization and Quero lit it up as a kid. I know you kid me about moving Anderson to catcher but do you like Quero's physique? 5-11?

Too bad the Sox organization is unable to develop young talent.  He'll be a bust here.

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